Is Daily not respected?

Being the only time control I'm not rubbish at; I'm concerned that I'm kidding myself if I think I can actually play. I understand that "good" players can play Blitz and Rapid to a good standard; but how do these same players think about daily and what is a seen as a decent rating for daily chess?

Well I almost only play Daily. Why do you think it is not respected?

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I think the people who don't respect Daily games just don't have respect for the game of chess itself. Some people don't have the time to commit to an entire game at a time and want to also have a chance to think about each of their moves without worrying about time pressure.

I think there are people that are mediocre at chess, but they have mastered some of the unique skills required to play blitz and bullet well. (time management, complicating the position when down, using "short" moves when time is low, knowing openings that work well in blitz, etc.) but put them in a slow game and the mediocrity of their play shows by a low rating. 

This is hard on their ego, as they want to believe they are better than they really are - so they dis on daily chess. 

Just a feeling I get from the forums. People seem to aspire to be good at Blitz, Bullet and maybe Rapid; but I haven't read of anyone saying: "I wish I could get to 1500 in Daily" And from my own experience, I know faster time controls show me to be a weak player. Nice to read the above comments though, from some pretty good players

Once you get good at blitz it's pretty easy to translate over to rapid, standard, and OTB chess.

It's pretty ironic that this post started off as saying people don't respect Daily while everyone commenting is not respecting blitz 

I wonder if it´s because of the fact that it´s easier to cheat with the longer time controls. If you gain rating points by playing 1 minute bullet of 3 minute blitz, then everyone knows those ratings are legit. Of course longer times controls are respected by the majority of chess players. It´s just people are sceptical of longer time controls ONLINE because of this problem.

THAT SAID, you should be proud of your success and rating in Daily Chess and should not be discouraged just because a small minority of users abuse the system.

I don't think people are necessarily 'not respecting' Blitz, they're just pointing out how there are ways that people win in Blitz that involve non-theoretical methods. Since you can't really flag someone in Daily games, those who rely on it when down material, in Blitz, would likely suffer in Daily. I respect/prefer Blitz as a time control, but there's a clear reason why the Candidates tournament isn't including Blitz in its format

This isn't true. 

Classical chess isn't real chess.

Obviously because higher time controls give higher quality games. There's also a reason many of the top standard players are top blitz players.

All I'm saying is most of the skills translate. With blitz you can get away with bad openings much better than standard, but the majority of what makes chess... chess is still still present in blitz.

I am disrespected daily as well. 

I think the biggest issue with daily ratings is that it's hard to compare or translate to a certain level of ability similar to live chess ratings. It's hugely dependent on how much time you spend on each move and how many games you play at once.

Most people who play daily chess play multiple games (up to tens or even hundreds) at the same time and only use something like few seconds to couple minutes on each move. They most likely barely use analysis board or opening database. If you limit your games to couple games at a time and spend like 10 minutes or more on every move making sure you check all tactical tricks, and blunder check with analysis board and use the opening database, you can probably get to like 1800+ with relatively limited knowledge of the game. You can practically shortcut to high daily ratings by spending a lot of time figuring moves with the analysis board, which is something you are unable to do in live chess.

I haven't really seen a high rated blitz player who would be much worse at longer time controls or daily chess, but I've seen a lot of fairly high rated daily players who are relatively bad at live chess. 

Regardless, in the end it's all about your own personal preference and goals you set to yourself. If it's about being good at daily chess, then so be it. If it's about being good at blitz, then so be it. If your goal is to be all around better chess player, then you need to be good at both of them.

I guess the reason many players don't respect Daily ratings is that it's generally easier to get a decent rating if you take advantage of the available resources. At least this is true at the lower levels. At the higher levels Daily ratings are often underrated compared to live ratings. It's harder for skilled blitz/rapid players to distinguish themselves in Daily chess because a lot of the skills that make them good at fast time controls are neutralized in Daily chess. For example you don't need to develop the ability to calculate well if you have an analysis board. You don't need to know your opening moves by heart if you have a database. You don't need to worry about time management if you have unlimited time. In live chess you are completely on your own. You can't rely on outside assistance so in that sense it is more skill based.

However, you do need to develop other skills to be a good Daily player. You need to be able to evaluate positions accurately. You need a lot of patience to consistently find good moves since impulsive or impatient decisions will often be punished. You need to be able to develop a long-term strategy and be able to exploit weaknesses in your opponent's position. Being good at Daily chess also requires you to be good at endgames, an area that many blitz players are weak in. If your Daily rating is better than your live ratings then it shows that you've developed some of these skills and you should be proud of that fact.

I just think that daily appeals to a different type of person is all. A maybe slightly older and perhaps more time-strapped because of a career/kids demographic. The skill sets are different though. Is being able to calculate in a timely matter in your head without using an analysis board the sign of a better chess player, or is finding the best theoretical move most important regardless of how you get there? I don't know. I do think that success in daily will be harder to translate into OTB success.