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I’m starting to study the Italian game, Giuoco Piano, Philidore, and Two Knights. What is a strong opening for black to play against this?
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For me, Scillian is the most annoying against Italian .

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Introduction to The Italian Game & Evans Gambit...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/introduction-to-the-italian-game

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Thanks! I’ll check out both.
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ChessSBM wrote:

For me, Scillian is the most annoying against Italian .

There is no Sicilian against the Italian. Perhaps you're referring to the king's pawn.

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Marcyful wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:

For me, Scillian is the most annoying against Italian .

There is no Sicilian against the Italian. Perhaps you're referring to the king's pawn.


I don’t know what this called, but I meant this.

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ChessSBM wrote:
Marcyful wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:

For me, Scillian is the most annoying against Italian .

There is no Sicilian against the Italian. Perhaps you're referring to the king's pawn.


I don’t know what this called, but I meant this.

That's not an Italian.

The Italian is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4

That's just a sub-par anti-sicilian.

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Marcyful wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:

For me, Scillian is the most annoying against Italian .

There is no Sicilian against the Italian. Perhaps you're referring to the king's pawn.

Correct.  ChessTempo calls the line the Sicilian Defense - French Variation....

https://old.chesstempo.com/gamedb/fen/rnbqkbnr/pp1p1ppp/4p3/2p5/2B1P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R%20b%20KQkq%20-%201%203

click on 'Games for Position' button

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Tbabcox wrote:
I’m starting to study the Italian game, Giuoco Piano, Philidore, and Two Knights. What is a strong opening for black to play against this?

Idk. lol