Sick of losing at 1450

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I have come to despise the game of chess, I never improve, everybody I play is an ex-1800 who is somehow playing at 1400 so I literally have no chance, I play what I think are the best moves and I lose and somehow learn nothing, I have no idea what I could do differently besides quit at this point.

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Hahah yeah I accepted the suck a long time ago. Chess is hard, and at that level, you're either playing someone who is actively trying to learn better tactics, or someone who was higher and dropped, but still insanely good. Best bet study more, blunder check the crap out of every move, and try to figure out where your own mistakes are.

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You are making pretty obvious errors.

I don’t know why, but you should try to fix them

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Learn and apply the most important principles of chess. - (core of my teaching)
Always blunder-check your moves.
Solve tactics in the right way.
Analyze your games.
Study games of strong players.
Learn how to be more psychologically resilient.
Work on your time management skills.
Get a coach if you can.

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Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond.....

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

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I'm 1600 and I don't think I've ever played someone who used to be 1800. Players are just competent above 1400. If you make a mistake they will likely capitalise on it. Instead of worrying about not climbing look for how you can improve. Then the rating gain will come.

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Instead of giving up, Perhaps you could try things that you haven’t tried before.

is there aOTB chess club in your area? If so, give it a try. You may find someone who is willing to go over some of your games with you.

your losses show that you are making some very basic errors—such as taking 2 seconds to castle into mate in 1 and overlooking that you could play mate in 1. You also resigned in a book position in which your opponent sacrificed a piece. Why? He wasn’t winning.

these types of errors show that you are moving too quickly. Perhaps you should try slower time controls so you have enough time to avoid these errors.

how have you studied? Have you read some of the classic instructional books by Chernev, Reinfels, Padolfini, etc. I know kids hate studying and so try to learn trial and error from blitz and rapid games. As an adult, you will be able to study and learn from books more quickly than a kid.

if chess is becoming too aversive for you, take a break. Don’t play for a month. Use the time that you otherwise would have spent playing speed chess against other players at your level, study some of the classic instructional books.

I expect that you would gain more from studying chess principles than from what you have been doing.

good luck.

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Kids may acquire the visual patterns more quickly than adults from countless speed games.

but adults are more willing to read and study books than kids. And adults don’t have as much time to waste playing speed chess against other beginners the way kids do.

If you are an adult and want to become a better chessplayer, use your strengths and don’t try to learn the way a kid does.

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mikewier wrote:

Kids may acquire the visual patterns more quickly than adults from countless speed games.

but adults are more willing to read and study books than kids. And adults don’t have as much time to waste playing speed chess against other beginners the way kids do.

If you are an adult and want to become a better chessplayer, use your strengths and don’t try to learn the way a kid does.

I agree with this. I feel that too often people use age as an excuse for their lack of effort. Let us not forget that Mikhail Tal reached his 2700+ peak rating at age 44! Adults can definitely keep improving their chess; your hopes for improvement aren't shattered just because you are no longer a kid.

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SliceofLife wrote:

I have come to despise the game of chess, I never improve, everybody I play is an ex-1800 who is somehow playing at 1400 so I literally have no chance, I play what I think are the best moves and I lose and somehow learn nothing, I have no idea what I could do differently besides quit at this point.

Try experimenting with different openings and play in the anonymous pool for a while. Playing in different pawn structures will open your mind to new tactical possibilities and refresh your interest in the game. It's difficult to evolve as a player if you stifle yourself with repetitive play.

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Play chess for the sake of playing it, not because of the elo rating.

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Its just a lot of cheaters at the Level 1200-1500 🤷‍♂️ a very lot

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mikewier wrote:

Kids may acquire the visual patterns more quickly than adults from countless speed games.

but adults are more willing to read and study books than kids. And adults don’t have as much time to waste playing speed chess against other beginners the way kids do.

If you are an adult and want to become a better chessplayer, use your strengths and don’t try to learn the way a kid does.

This is a very good point! I stopped learning the way kids would and just basically do all of the boring trainings that kids wouldn't do like opening, pawn structure, and endgame concept.

Somehow, I don't think I can master tactical aspect of the game as well as kids would, it's just like your brain can't recognize the patterns as fast and need to calculate first; however, I still love doing puzzle almost everyday.

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SliceofLife wrote:

I have come to despise the game of chess, I never improve, everybody I play is an ex-1800 who is somehow playing at 1400 so I literally have no chance, I play what I think are the best moves and I lose and somehow learn nothing, I have no idea what I could do differently besides quit at this point.

Are you saying you can't learn from playing against a 1800 rated player?

Also why give up here?

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mikewier wrote:  You also resigned in a book position in which your opponent sacrificed a piece. Why?

I had no idea of the continuation, I looked at the board for ages, then gave up.

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sawdof wrote:
SliceofLife wrote:
 

Also why give up here?

The opponent has clearly learned an opening that I don't know, whatever intuitive move i play next, it will be a trap leading to a massive loss.

I assume I would take with the king and then lose my bishop and castling rights. The game is already over.

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I don't know any openings I just play intuitive chess. I think learning openings is very lame, it changes chess into a game of memorisation and so when I play against players who have learned a trick opening I will usually lose.

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I guess I wish the starting position was randomised or whatever because it just gives an advantage to people who like to memorise 15 moves of openings which in my opinion isn't playing chess at all

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SliceofLife wrote:

I guess I wish the starting position was randomised or whatever because it just gives an advantage to people who like to memorise 15 moves of openings which in my opinion isn't playing chess at all

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