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psicopato19
for some reason they think that's fair to put newbies to play against players with more than 1k games. I have less than 100 games, but they put me to play with guys with 900~ rating and 1.7k games, I'm ~800 and i have less than 100. how am i supposed to win?I'll just stop playing this game, this matchmaking is frustrating af.
GM_Raise_My_Rating

Lol lm frustrated too.. honestly, ive been getting trounced by players that are supposed to be beginner/intermediate like me, that don't blunder at all. Believe me, there are players with 1000+ games that are probably getting their butts kicked like I am.

justbefair
psicopato19 wrote:
for some reason they think that's fair to put newbies to play against players with more than 1k games. I have less than 100 games, but they put me to play with guys with 900~ rating and 1.7k games, I'm ~800 and i have less than 100. how am i supposed to win?I'll just stop playing this game, this matchmaking is frustrating af.

An unusal complaint. Many long time users complain about having to play new players but not that many new players complain about having to play established players.

I don't think that the number of games is taken into account in matchmaking.

You evidently started at 400 and worked your way up to a high of 928 earlier this week.

You have played 78 games of rapid.

I don't think that you qualify as a newbie any more.

psicopato19
justbefair wrote:
psicopato19 wrote:
for some reason they think that's fair to put newbies to play against players with more than 1k games. I have less than 100 games, but they put me to play with guys with 900~ rating and 1.7k games, I'm ~800 and i have less than 100. how am i supposed to win?I'll just stop playing this game, this matchmaking is frustrating af.

An unusal complaint. Many long time users complain about having to play new players but not that many new players complain about having to play established players.

I don't think that the number of games is taken into account in matchmaking.

You evidently started at 400 and worked your way up to a high of 928 earlier this week.

You have played 78 games of rapid.

I don't think that you qualify as a newbie any more.

I started playing 15/07 on linchess, then i started playing here 18/07, I don't know anything about chess, literally nothing but the first moves of the London system. How am i not a newbie? It's non sense to put players like me to play with guys with 1.7k games and 944 rating. And i reached 928 in my first day here because of a 6 win streak, i can't reach this rating again

GM_Raise_My_Rating

I wouldn't worry about it too much.. I hate getting beat all the time.. it sucks, but until we get better at the game, expect that. I play on lichess too as well as here, people here are way better at lower ratings than over there. Not sure what to tell ya.

psicopato19
TheMadDrummer99 wrote:

I wouldn't worry about it too much.. I hate getting beat all the time.. it sucks, but until we get better at the game, expect that. I play on lichess too as well as here, people here are way better at lower ratings than over there. Not sure what to tell ya.

I don't play at lichess anymore because of their layout, lol. But it's ok to lose sometimes, i just can't understand how it's fair to play with someone who has a lot of games and more rating. I may be wrong, but seems weird. But ok, they probably have a reason for that

GM_Raise_My_Rating

Ya know.. eventually you'll be the guy with 1000 games under your belt and a higher rating. Hell you're probably better than me ;) I hate dropping to low ratings but I know I make mistakes that cost me the games early. Once I stop making mistakes I'll raise my rating. It's definitely frustrating, I hear you there. Just play, puzzle, and learn from your mistakes.

ryanovster

You see, it is fair, they have played so many games and have not grown out of your grouping of under <1000, they are not good enough to compete against players over that level, you have a good chance to beat t hose players since you are over 800a nd will most likely grow faster than the other player will....it doesnt matter how many games youve played or how much experience you have if you have not improved your game such has he has not done....i played near 10000 games so by your logic i should beat grandmasters with ease.....so you see it doesnt matter how many games you played, its your skill level, and it matches his, thats why chess.com matches you guys...sometimes i get matched against a player who is 1200 who is just starting out, could be a grand master and whip my butt. could also be a very poor player that has no business playing against me, but chess.com matches the best possible rating to play you at any given game.

ryanovster
TheMadDrummer99 wrote:

Ya know.. eventually you'll be the guy with 1000 games under your belt and a higher rating. Hell you're probably better than me ;) I hate dropping to low ratings but I know I make mistakes that cost me the games early. Once I stop making mistakes I'll raise my rating. It's definitely frustrating, I hear you there. Just play, puzzle, and learn from your mistakes.

I tell most players, just slow your game down look for all possible checks and attacks, you would be surprised how many players i play i beat when they have 9 mins left on the clock in a 10 minute game, you will be suprised how much you improve by just taking that extra min or so to look over the board, i am guilty of playing too fast myself and should be 1600 but since i rush every game i play, my rating yin yangs from 1200 to 1500 lol.....just take your time, your rating will sky rocket.

your brain over time will train you to play faster after you have done this trick takeas a while but you will see results.

ryanovster
TheMadDrummer99 wrote:

Lol lm frustrated too.. honestly, ive been getting trounced by players that are supposed to be beginner/intermediate like me, that don't blunder at all. Believe me, there are players with 1000+ games that are probably getting their butts kicked like I am.

It doesnt matter everyone gets trounced, so does Magnus Carlsen from time to time...im a interm/advanced level player and no matter what level you play, will always be those games, hell even i keep falling for the 2 knight system and im the king of the Knights lol....shows everyone has bad games.

magipi

A wise person would be happy to have a chance to play against a (slightly) better player. If you win, you in a lot of rating points; if you lose, you lose only a little. And anyway it is a useful experience.

Another strategy is to whine in the forums. Also good.

DejarikDreams

I heard Tinder has the worst matchmaking in the world. 👀

BlueHen86
psicopato19 wrote:
for some reason they think that's fair to put newbies to play against players with more than 1k games. I have less than 100 games, but they put me to play with guys with 900~ rating and 1.7k games, I'm ~800 and i have less than 100. how am i supposed to win?I'll just stop playing this game, this matchmaking is frustrating af.

The pairings are done by rating, not games played. Rating is a better estimate of playing strength.

psicopato19
ryanovster wrote:

You see, it is fair, they have played so many games and have not grown out of your grouping of under <1000, they are not good enough to compete against players over that level, you have a good chance to beat t hose players since you are over 800a nd will most likely grow faster than the other player will....it doesnt matter how many games youve played or how much experience you have if you have not improved your game such has he has not done....i played near 10000 games so by your logic i should beat grandmasters with ease.....so you see it doesnt matter how many games you played, its your skill level, and it matches his, thats why chess.com matches you guys...sometimes i get matched against a player who is 1200 who is just starting out, could be a grand master and whip my butt. could also be a very poor player that has no business playing against me, but chess.com matches the best possible rating to play you at any given game.

Makes sense... I thought that a guy with 800 rating and less experience, would be worse than a guy with 800 rating and a lot of experience, because he have seen more things and patterns. But I'm not sure about this, you're right. Thx for the explanation

ryanovster
psicopato19 wrote:
ryanovster wrote:

You see, it is fair, they have played so many games and have not grown out of your grouping of under <1000, they are not good enough to compete against players over that level, you have a good chance to beat t hose players since you are over 800a nd will most likely grow faster than the other player will....it doesnt matter how many games youve played or how much experience you have if you have not improved your game such has he has not done....i played near 10000 games so by your logic i should beat grandmasters with ease.....so you see it doesnt matter how many games you played, its your skill level, and it matches his, thats why chess.com matches you guys...sometimes i get matched against a player who is 1200 who is just starting out, could be a grand master and whip my butt. could also be a very poor player that has no business playing against me, but chess.com matches the best possible rating to play you at any given game.

Makes sense... I thought that a guy with 800 rating and less experience, would be worse than a guy with 800 rating and a lot of experience, because he have seen more things and patterns. But I'm not sure about this, you're right. Thx for the explanation

any time friend, also when you play longer games, take your time, you would be surprised how many people play too fast and miss such great opportunities, from that alone you will gain 400 raiting points over time , thast a key very few learn and over time your brain will make you play those same moves you took longer to play, a lot shorter, if you know what i mean, you could be very good, dont sell yourself short by playing so fast that you only play 2 mins ina 10 min game ....the other 8 could get you the win, and expeirene.

BigFoxy90

Honestly I don't know that the number of games really matters. I've played people on here Who have been playing the game 10 years longer than myself and beat them no less. It doesn't Matter how many games or how many years. It's the work and effort to learn that makes the real difference.

Not_The_Gallery

The match making is bad because the scoring is bad. You win a game and even though it could have been the most difficult win you've ever gotten the system automatically assumes that the rating is beneath you and matches you up with people up to 500 points higher than you. Absurd. You need to lose 50 games in order for the system to match you again with someone in your actual level only for you to win 1 game and go back to playing with absurdly rated players.

mrSARcosaurus

Okay I understood matchmaking in a diff sense and was wondering what was goin on in Chess.com💀