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AtaChess68
Probably a language thing (non native English here). Am I right if I say that the difference between an undefended piece and a hanging piece is if it’s attacked or not?

A rook with no guard: undefended
A rook with no guard ánd an attacker: hanging

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AtaChess68
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nklristic

I would say that is about right.



please_can_i_win_a_game
AtaChess68 wrote:
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Don't make it a habit to bump your own posts, btw. It isn't good etiquette.

That said, from what I've been learning, I think you have the definitions on the right track. I believe more correct ways of calling a piece "undefended" or "hanging" are these:

  • Undefended: your opponent threatens a piece of yours, but your piece currently has no defenders to trade with the attacker should it be taken on the next turn.
  • Hanging: you intentionally or unintentionally placed, or left, a piece in a position where it will be in an undefended state during your opponent's turn.

 

blueemu

An undefended piece is unguarded and may or may not be under attack.

A hanging piece is unguarded and is (or will be) under attack.

So a hanging piece is a sub-class of the undefended piece.

KeSetoKaiba
blueemu wrote:

An undefended piece is unguarded and may or may not be under attack.

A hanging piece is unguarded and is (or will be) under attack.

So a hanging piece is a sub-class of the undefended piece.

+1 Reminds me of John Ven's descriptions of sets and sub-sets. 

Some chess players disagree on terminology, but this definition @blueemu gave is the one I deem correct as well. 

We should also include the chess term "en prise" which is incorrectly used interchangeable with "hanging", but in my opinion, "hanging" is more often from the perspective of overlooked and undefended whereas "en prise" is something left undefended intentionally (usually tactically defended or "poisoned")

AtaChess68
Thx!
AtaChess68
I think I reduced my simpel blunders heavily the moment I understood that I not only have to avoid hanging pieces, but I also have to avoid undefended pieces.
mpaetz

     There is also an English term "hanging pawns" which means two side-by-side pawns with no pawn support on either side.