I did end the game up a whole queen... but if it's his turn to move, and he sits there for 40 minutes I have to sit there too.
We were the same rating, and I think he was mad that I managed to queen my pawn, that's when he suddenly had to "think"
When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal
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Right but that's not a question of playing the game anymore, that's just called stalling, which is punished on chess.com.
We're not talking about stalling, we're talking about playing in a lost position.
Oct 20, 2020
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#124
Yeah, I mean, as long as they move at a normal pace I don't get mad at anyone for not resigning.
In tournaments I tend to resign very late... to the point some people might be upset... but I don't make them wait very long in terms of the clock 
Yeah, i think everyone agrees that someone who spends 40 minutes on a move when they're a queen down is (expletives).
Fortunately it's punished pretty well on this site.
This whole thing is absurdly misguided. In the given game, your opponent did not resign and he was right because the game became a draw.
Also, it does not matter whether it's online or OTB. You should never resign in a blitz game against anyone, because in blitz anything can happen, even with two grandmasters playing. And you should never resign even a slow game against a beginner, because a beginner can throw away a won game at any moment.
Oct 20, 2020
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#127
llama wrote:
Soniasthetics wrote:
If you were able to outplay your opponent to the point where you think they should of resigned, then why not obliterate them and show them that they were wrong for holding onto hope?
Well, once was round 1 of a tournament. I wanted him to resign because he was 1800 and I'm a queen up on move 40 or so.
The round started around 9am, and round 3 was going to end at something like 8pm. So having 1 hour for lunch would have been nice.
But no, he decided to use all his time playing in a lost position, so I had to eat some gas station sandwich in 10 minutes and then sit down to play for another 6 hours in rounds 2 and 3.
A few years ago at the city championship 2 guys i know were paired against each other. One guy is older, the nicest guy you could ever want to meet. The other guy, plays purely for the fun of it. He couldn't care less about the result. So these 2 are playing. "Player 1" play chess like he lives life. He takes his time, and I mean TAKES HIS TIME. This guy wouldn't rush leaving a burning building. "Player 2" as i said plays purely for the fun of the game, and the interaction. They are about 12 moves in when "Player 2" waves me over. We go out into the hall and he tells me: "If he doesn't hurry up, I'm gonna just resign and reenter." So yea...2 moves later, he resigned and reentered.
Just a counter to your experience :-)
Oct 20, 2020
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#128
Art0fArcane wrote:
Apparently he did not know the pattern.
Beginner mistakes,
@wornaki
You should try the lessons, or play against computer, because you can set up positions. You can learn how to do some endgames and you will get better.
Beginner mistakes,
@wornaki
You should try the lessons, or play against computer, because you can set up positions. You can learn how to do some endgames and you will get better.
Let me preface what i am about to post with this. I am NOT attacking the OP, I am merely making an observation.
The OP (in my opinion) likes to believe he is better than a beginner. And who is has never had an inflated opinion of themselves?
The OP likes to hide behind excuses instead of acknowledging his faults. Again, who here hasn't done that.
Attention seeking is a big part of this. As they say. Negative attention is better than no attention at all.
Oct 20, 2020
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#129
To Forked_Again's point regarding blowing a lost position. When I'm doing the ladder technique to checkmate someone up two queens in a completely won position that might be the moment to resign. This won't apply at my rating range as I have only been playing for about 6 months, but as you ascend the rating ladder you will find that high rated players can convert a very small advantage (up a pawn, up the exchange, etc.) into a win easily. So if you are under 1000 never resign as your opponent will most likely blunder or stalemate you in a winning position. Past about 1400 it's less likely, so be a good sport and resign. You are just wasting time you could spend playing another game and getting better. We're all just here to improve (i would assume) so if a person has obviously outplayed you just resign and be a good sport. Just my two cents.
Oct 20, 2020
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#130
Art0fArcane wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Art0fArcane wrote:
Apparently he did not know the pattern.
Beginner mistakes,
@wornaki
You should try the lessons, or play against computer, because you can set up positions. You can learn how to do some endgames and you will get better.
Beginner mistakes,
@wornaki
You should try the lessons, or play against computer, because you can set up positions. You can learn how to do some endgames and you will get better.
Let me preface what i am about to post with this. I am NOT attacking the OP, I am merely making an observation.
The OP (in my opinion) likes to believe he is better than a beginner. And who is has never had an inflated opinion of themselves?
The OP likes to hide behind excuses instead of acknowledging his faults. Again, who here hasn't done that.
Attention seeking is a big part of this. As they say. Negative attention is better than no attention at all.
A lot of people would rather be ignored than be insulted.
you should not slander him, higher rated played (1400+) should probably resign when they are losing, as an example, if me, a 2289 rated in rapid, was playing another 2280 in a K+R vs K position and losing, there is no way my opponent would allow me to draw. I should just resign, is his point.
"Let me preface what i am about to post with this. I am NOT attacking the OP, I am merely making an observation. "
Oct 20, 2020
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#131
I don't think rating should even be a consideration in fast chess. For better players they know when a game is lost and when the odds are very very low for any other outcome but a loss. But that is only true if clock is not a factor. GMs play on to try to flag their opponent or hope for a mistake when time is short, so it is definitely ok to do so.
Oct 20, 2020
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#132
"Cool" how suddenly it's all about me or about blitz... It seems me saying in the original post that I was talking about developing a habit and then carrying it to OTB classical rapid chess (with 10 or 30 second increment) was missed... again.
Oct 20, 2020
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#133
It's about etiquette. Your opponent played on when he thought (correctly as it turned out) that he could still draw. That you knew that the game was theoretically lost doesn't mean the low-rated opponent knew it. Had you demonstrated that you knew how to force him to the edge of the board and mate, he could have seen it coming and very likely resigned eventually. Etiquette means taking the other person's perspective into consideration. After your opponent made an heroic effort to hold you off for 50 moves in a lost position the polite thing to do would have been to congratulate him and go on to the next game, not block him and go on to this forum to complain he was developing a bad habit, continuing to grouse about it for days. He was in the right.
Oct 20, 2020
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#134
"...block him and go on to this forum to complain he was developing a bad habit, continuing to grouse about it for days."
Learn to let it go. At the end of the day. Chess is just a game.
Art0fArcane wrote:
when playing above 1600-1700, if you are in a losing situation in endgame, you have basically lost.
You could hardly be more epically wrong! Every day hundred, if not thousands, of wins are turned into draws and draws are turned into losses by players rated 1600-1700.
Oct 20, 2020
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#136
Optimissed wrote:
wornaki wrote:
i covered entitlement in my message. Playing to the end is your right and you can do it to your own benefit, as much as resigning can also beneficial. However, what is almost universally accepted is that it is not sportsmanlike to play on resignable positions in serious chess. Since I specifically mentioned blitz online, I'm just appealing to people who are likely to play serious chess OTB at some point. I recommend that you don't carry the online blitz attitude to OTB serious chess. That's all.
Blitz isn't serious chess. So there you are .... you answered yourself.
But habits do form from playing it. 
Oct 20, 2020
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#137
mpaetz wrote:
It's about etiquette. Your opponent played on when he thought (correctly as it turned out) that he could still draw. That you knew that the game was theoretically lost doesn't mean the low-rated opponent knew it. Had you demonstrated that you knew how to force him to the edge of the board and mate, he could have seen it coming and very likely resigned eventually. Etiquette means taking the other person's perspective into consideration. After your opponent made an heroic effort to hold you off for 50 moves in a lost position the polite thing to do would have been to congratulate him and go on to the next game, not block him and go on to this forum to complain he was developing a bad habit, continuing to grouse about it for days. He was in the right.
If etiquette is about taking into account your opponent's perspective, then I wasn't the one who was first at fault then. My opponent failed to see it was a lost endgame. Fine, I can "believe" that. Other than that I will not congratulate an opponent for behaving (on purpose or not) in ways I consider wrong. Sorry, that's how I roll...
Oct 20, 2020
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#138
IMBacon wrote:
"...block him and go on to this forum to complain he was developing a bad habit, continuing to grouse about it for days."
Learn to let it go. At the end of the day. Chess is just a game.
Right back at you Don't you think you have slandered me enough? No? What else can I do for you then?
Laskersnephew wrote:
Art0fArcane wrote:
when playing above 1600-1700, if you are in a losing situation in endgame, you have basically lost.
You could hardly be more epically wrong! Every day hundred, if not thousands, of wins are turned into draws and draws are turned into losses by players rated 1600-1700.
To this I can testify, as a 1600 player.
Oct 20, 2020
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#140
Optimissed wrote:
It isn't bad etiquette not to see you're losing and it it's good sportsmanship to play on if you're losing if you think you can see a possible way out. Nobody won a game by resigning and I've won plenty of otb league games for my team from lost positions. Especially if your opponent has little time left. After all, he used that time to reach the better position.
That's a fair opinion. I don't agree with it, but I don't have any hostile reaction to it. It seems to me you don't have a hostile reaction to my opinion either. I prefer your kind of reply over many of the others I have received in this thread. 
It's your own fault for not ending the game up a whole queen. It's not morally wrong or unethical for not resigning as soon as they are lost.
I've played in long tournaments before, where opponents don't resign. it's really not that big of a deal. It's not like you're using brain power to finish the game when you're up an entire queen.