Why does a beginner have this attitude?

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Chess147

I'm not interested in continuing this discussion because I don't appreciate being called deranged and hysterical. That attitude speaks volumes.

PeterSaxton

Dont act it then.

You seem to forget what you said: "You sound overbearing and quite possibly infatuated."

It shows signs of being out of touch with reality.

Chess147
PeterSaxton wrote:

Dont act it then.

You seem to forget what you said: "You sound overbearing and quite possibly infatuated."

It shows signs of being out of touch with reality.

Hi Peter, please do not be disrespectful by suggesting I am deranged/hysterical. It was a disturbing overreaction to my comment and unwarranted. Suggesting I am out of touch with reality is equally unnecessary.

TheMidnightExpress12

im following this for later

PeterSaxton
Chess147 wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:

Dont act it then.

You seem to forget what you said: "You sound overbearing and quite possibly infatuated."

It shows signs of being out of touch with reality.

Hi Peter, please do not be disrespectful by suggesting I am deranged/hysterical. It was a disturbing overreaction to my comment and unwarranted. Suggesting I am out of touch with reality is equally unnecessary.

I would suggest that you decided to come out with ridiculous comments in the first place. People will be critical of you if you say crazy things. You even suggested that "earning a title, winning tournaments or hustling cash on the streets" is the only option apart from not bothering about what the opponent can do or is trying to do. I would suggest most people should consider whether their pieces can be taken for nothing or whether they should let their queen and rooks be taken for lower value consideration. People might do it a few times over months but to do it half a dozen times each game suggests a lack of concentration. Pointing this out shouldnt lead to accusations of being "overbearing" or "infatuated". You just come across as crazy.

Chess147

You appear angry. Calling people crazy is not a good look because it's not insightful or constructive and in my view reinforces my belief that you are overbearing and your friend doesn't want or need your advice to improve at chess.

PeterSaxton
Chess147 wrote:

You appear angry. Calling people crazy is not a good look because it's not insightful or constructive and in my view reinforces my belief that you are overbearing and your friend doesn't want or need your advice to improve at chess.

You cant change can you? You make wild accusations and then object when people criticise you.

You say you are not interested in continuing this discussion yet you do. It is clear you dont know your own mind.

I have commented on somebody who doesnt seem to try to improve although she claimed she would double her grade in a week. She didnt. She reduced her grade by 20%. You now say I am "angry" yet you dont seem capable of justifying any of your wild accusations.

Chess147

I'm continuing the discussion because of the way you are speaking to me and your misogynistic tone.

LOSTATCHESS

my comment on this is -- some people play the game as therapy -- they don't want to care to win, they play the game just to make the other pain in their life go away for a brief time, and think about just moving pieces around a board with an opponent that does not know or care about them, idel distraction is what it called and meant people here are here because of that -- calling names to each other, is just another form of pain distraction - really do you think calling someone out. on a website is going to change someone's mind and opinion of you ?? it a form of cutting, just not as painful ---- so please stop the name calling and let people play the game the way they really want to play -- and for others that want help to improve they will seek others others out to do that with the name calling

Zappa1968

Sounds like she needs to take up Bowling.

PeterSaxton
Chess147 wrote:

I'm continuing the discussion because of the way you are speaking to me and your misogynistic tone.

"misogynistic"!? Now you really have lost it. You just throw out insults without any logic.

Chess147
PeterSaxton wrote:
Chess147 wrote:

I'm continuing the discussion because of the way you are speaking to me and your misogynistic tone.

"misogynistic"!? Now you really have lost it. You just throw out insults without any logic.

It's not an insult it's an observation and your reaction suggests it's accurate. If you think you can bully me in to not replying then think again.

PeterSaxton

I agree that people should not introduce wild insults into the discussion. Because someone suggests a person should consider what their opponent can do or is aiming to do should not mean they should be accused of being "overbearing", "angry", "infatuated" or "misogynistic" without a trace of evidence to support it.

PeterSaxton
Chess147 wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
Chess147 wrote:

I'm continuing the discussion because of the way you are speaking to me and your misogynistic tone.

"misogynistic"!? Now you really have lost it. You just throw out insults without any logic.

It's not an insult it's an observation and your reaction suggests it's accurate. If you think you can bully me in to not replying then think again.

What did I say that justifies you accusing me of being "misogynistic"?

PeterSaxton
Chess147 wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
Chess147 wrote:

I'm continuing the discussion because of the way you are speaking to me and your misogynistic tone.

"misogynistic"!? Now you really have lost it. You just throw out insults without any logic.

It's not an insult it's an observation and your reaction suggests it's accurate. If you think you can bully me in to not replying then think again.

Now I am "bullying" you because I point out you said you werent going to continue this discussion yet you did. Your attitude is that of being contradictory in your own statements.

PeterSaxton
PeterSaxton wrote:

I agree that people should not introduce wild insults into the discussion. Because someone suggests a person should consider what their opponent can do or is aiming to do should not mean they should be accused of being "overbearing", "angry", "infatuated" or "misogynistic" without a trace of evidence to support it.

Dina Belenkaya also suggests:

"Every time your opponent makes a move, ask yourself these questions:

Why did my opponent make that move?
Is my opponent attacking any of my pieces? What is my opponent's threat? 
Can I capture anything “for free”? "

Maybe Dina is "misogynistic"!?

smallpawninabigworld

Your friend is rated 100-200 on here as you say. You are rated around 400, so while her rating is worse than yours, yours isn't really a whole lot better. Still, you come across as considering yourself clearly superior.

Maybe it's not her attitude that is the problem here.

Senseistar1212

facts so much hackers these days man

PeterSaxton
smallpawninabigworld wrote:

Your friend is rated 100-200 on here as you say. You are rated around 400, so while her rating is worse than yours, yours isn't really a whole lot better. Still, you come across as considering yourself clearly superior.

Maybe it's not her attitude that is the problem here.

I am better than her. If you want to deny reality then do so but you will come across as foolish. I dont leave several pieces hanging in a match. I dont happily accept losing a bishop or knight for a pawn. By all means tell me what is good about her attitude but you dont show any common sense if you think that I am not a better player than her. You could say that there's lots of players better then me and nobody would disagree. She's played well over 1,000 games on chess.com and she can spot some forks but it's obvious she doesnt consider what her opponent can do at the next move. That is very basic for any chess player.

smallpawninabigworld
PeterSaxton wrote:
smallpawninabigworld wrote:

Your friend is rated 100-200 on here as you say. You are rated around 400, so while her rating is worse than yours, yours isn't really a whole lot better. Still, you come across as considering yourself clearly superior.

Maybe it's not her attitude that is the problem here.

I am better than her. If you want to deny reality then do so but you will come across as foolish. I dont leave several pieces hanging in a match. I dont happily accept losing a bishop or knight for a pawn. By all means tell me what is good about her attitude but you dont show any common sense if you think that I am not a better player than her. You could say that there's lots of players better then me and nobody would disagree. She's played well over 1,000 games on chess.com and she can spot some forks but it's obvious she doesnt consider what her opponent can do at the next move. That is very basic for any chess player.

I didn't deny that you're better, but you're not a whole lot better. Certainly not by that much that it warrants any of the superiority attitude that you're showing here. If you're showing the same attitude when talking to her, it's no surprise to me that she doesn't want your advice. Just leave her be. Why does it even bother you if she's playing poorly?