Why my move (Ndb4) is a blunder in the following game?

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imdashraful17

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

astroawe3

 

Because Qxf7 is checkmate!

 

imdashraful17
astroawe3 wrote:

 

Because Qxf7 is checkmate!

 

Didn't notice it completely. Thanks

astroawe3
imdashraful17 wrote:
astroawe3 wrote:

 

Because Qxf7 is checkmate!

 

Didn't notice it completely. Thanks

It is ok

sfxe

ngl this is kinda funny

 

LeeEuler
Chessguy149 wrote:

ngl this is kinda funny

 

It is extremely funny. But then kind of depressing when you think what GM's must think when the see some of the moves more intermediate players miss that are completely obvious to them. There are levels to this! Good luck to both you and @imdashraful17 on your chess!

 
NikkiLikeChikki
@Lee that, sir, is a fantastic point. Even Leela looks down on Magnus and thinks, “puny human.”
m_connors
astroawe3 wrote:

 

Because Qxf7 is checkmate!

 

I love the way Knights can be so deadly, while looking so harmless, to the unsuspecting. wn.png

Phantom_Beast23

yeah I used this mate to find about 50 points XD

imdashraful17
astroawe3 wrote:

 

Because Qxf7 is checkmate!

 

My rating is 782 right now, but my opponent didn't notice it too. I was lucky and finally I won the game

flyingsaucer36
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

m_connors
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
flyingsaucer36 wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

Qxf7?? runs into Kxf7

you're very low rated, so I won't judge you

No, Kxf7 is not legal. Queen protected by Knight at g5. That's why Ndb4 is a blunder, it leaves the square unprotected and allows mate . . . happy.png

AyushBlundersAgain
m_connors wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
flyingsaucer36 wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

Qxf7?? runs into Kxf7

you're very low rated, so I won't judge you

No, Kxf7 is not legal. Queen protected by Knight at g5. That's why Ndb4 is a blunder, it leaves the square unprotected and allows mate . . .

Wrong, it is legal and Qxf7 would be a costly error. You really are lower rated happy.png

m_connors
AyushMChessMator wrote:
m_connors wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
flyingsaucer36 wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

Qxf7?? runs into Kxf7

you're very low rated, so I won't judge you

No, Kxf7 is not legal. Queen protected by Knight at g5. That's why Ndb4 is a blunder, it leaves the square unprotected and allows mate . . .

Wrong, it is legal and Qxf7 would be a costly error. You really are lower rated

Tell you what. There is a very easy way to prove this. Go to the diagram in post #1 and click on the small icon under a1. Move Qxf7. Try K x f7. You cannot make the move - it is illegal. And, oh yes, the game ends with checkmate.

Apology accepted . . .

[Edit] Just saw your rating. How are you 2100+?

m_connors
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
m_connors wrote:
AyushMChessMator wrote:
m_connors wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
flyingsaucer36 wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

Qxf7?? runs into Kxf7

you're very low rated, so I won't judge you

No, Kxf7 is not legal. Queen protected by Knight at g5. That's why Ndb4 is a blunder, it leaves the square unprotected and allows mate . . .

Wrong, it is legal and Qxf7 would be a costly error. You really are lower rated

Tell you what. There is a very easy way to prove this. Go to the diagram in post #1 and click on the small icon under a1. Move Qxf7. Try K x f7. You cannot make the move - it is illegal. And, oh yes, the game ends with checkmate.

Apology accepted . . .

[Edit] Just saw your rating. How are you 2100+?

You clearly don't understand the basic rules of chess.

Research: "Capturing in Chess"

Hey. The move is illegal. Qxf7# You only need to do what I said.

Capture: The King cannot move into check to capture a piece. The Knight protects f7; therefore, the King cannot capture the Queen, as doing so puts him in check. Research it yourself!!

m_connors
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
m_connors wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
m_connors wrote:
AyushMChessMator wrote:
m_connors wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
flyingsaucer36 wrote:
I_Have_Little_Life wrote:
imdashraful17 wrote:

In one of my most recent games, I have played Ndb4 in the following position (I am black). Why is this move being shown as a blunder in the analysis? As you can see, it doesn't leave any major pieces in threat.

 

because after Qxc6! and Nxc6

white can play Bb5!! pinning the knight and threatens to double black's pawns.

After a6, Bxc6+ then bxc6, black's pieces are passive, pawn structure has been ruined, and white can castle. White is completely winning.

also Qxf7 checkmate

Qxf7?? runs into Kxf7

you're very low rated, so I won't judge you

No, Kxf7 is not legal. Queen protected by Knight at g5. That's why Ndb4 is a blunder, it leaves the square unprotected and allows mate . . .

Wrong, it is legal and Qxf7 would be a costly error. You really are lower rated

Tell you what. There is a very easy way to prove this. Go to the diagram in post #1 and click on the small icon under a1. Move Qxf7. Try K x f7. You cannot make the move - it is illegal. And, oh yes, the game ends with checkmate.

Apology accepted . . .

[Edit] Just saw your rating. How are you 2100+?

You clearly don't understand the basic rules of chess.

Research: "Capturing in Chess"

Hey. The move is illegal. Qxf7# You only need to do what I said.

Capture: The King cannot move into check to capture a piece. The Knight protects f7; therefore, the King cannot capture the Queen, as doing so puts him in check. Research it yourself!!

wait, so you're saying kings can't capture pieces?

utter plonk.

Ok. I have to believe you are yanking my chain now. Nobody can be so utterly stupid as this.

Good on you . . . you got me.

(And if you truly are as stupid as you are letting on. Well, I am sorry. You must have a difficult time in life.)

EscherehcsE

Me thinks @m_connors is being trolled, haha...

(BTW, the queen on f7 is doubly protected - by the knight *and* the bishop! Uh oh, now *I* might be trolled, lol.)

m_connors
EscherehcsE wrote:

Me thinks @m_connors is being trolled, haha...

(BTW, the queen on f7 is doubly protected - by the knight *and* the bishop! Uh oh, now *I* might be trolled, lol.)

Never saw the Bishop, just focused on the Knight. Thanks.

Yes, trolled. This is a beginners' topic and some beginners need the help, such as the OP. And, sometimes they need a little more. But, he got me . . . Oh well. wink.png

2Kf21-0

Yes Qxf7 is mate