Will I Ever See 1000?

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AbbyTheButcher

I can't even get up to 700. I start to do well get up to around 650-660 but before I even see 660, I start going on a losing streak and start to plummet down in elo again. I tried lowering the challengers and I swear even playing against 500s, I'm getting destroyed hardcore. I just lost so much in one night that it seems like all the progress I made yesterday is pointless. 

I've been told by so many that I play well and I'm doing x right and whatever and i'll see 1100 in no time they swear. Yeah sounds like a whole bunch of BS when I can't even hold 650. I'm not aiming for 2000s or any kind of title, I just wanna reach the 1000s so I can play some enjoyable games without being dismissed as just a beginner.

I'm studying openings, opened a chessable account, playing unrated daily games with people attempting to teach me. I've been watching Gotham, John Bartholomew, and even Chessbrah and they all basically repeat the same things. It's the same stuff over and over again. I get opening principles, I try to follow them. I have a handful of openings I play and have practiced regularly. I am working on pawn placement and endgames. I've been doing puzzles and keeping a puzzle elo over 900. I do the daily puzzles, have been reading over all the chess.com lessons. It's not getting me anywhere. 

Should I just give up and just admit that i'm never gonna see four digits? Just go to chesskid and maybe that'll be more on my level? I feel so stupid and pathetic.

AbbyTheButcher

I have tried Chessable and before you even comment on this thread, Russell Bell, I swear to god I have seen your comment and blog post on every forum thread in this forum. If that didn't help on every forum thread here before, what makes you think it's gonna work on the next one!?!

llama36

It simply takes time. You've played 182 games this month, which is great, but no one is rated 1000 after one month.

Wish I'd saved it, but some pogchamps person made a video about her progress. Her goal was to get to 1000. She got coaching and played a lot. IIRC it took her the better part of a year.

Perhaps advice is most useful for people who have been stuck at the same rating for a while... for example stuck for 1 year and 1000 games. You're improving, just give it time.

I've played over 100,000 games. If I gained rating after ever session I'd be rated, well, in the 6 digits... but that's not how it works.

AbbyTheButcher

I mean I get that it's not gonna happen overnight but I'm going backwards. I'm almost back to the 500s again like how could you say I'm improving?

llama36
AbbyTheButcher wrote:

I mean I get that it's not gonna happen overnight but I'm going backwards. I'm almost back to the 500s again like how could you say I'm improving?

Long time coach Dan Heisman had a quote about this... he said something like...

After a loss do you think you're a worse player than you were when the game began?
After a win are you suddenly better?

Of course not. Rating changes after every game, but your skill is essentially the same. Rating only shadows your actual skill, sometimes ahead, sometimes behind. If you focus on your rating it's like chasing your tail, but if you focus on what you learn then your rating will take care of itself.

That was his advice in a nutshell.

llama36
AbbyTheButcher wrote:

 how could you say I'm improving?

You've played tons of games and watched videos and read advice... there's 0% chance you're not better now than you were when you created this account.

Plus, it's often the case that learning new concepts makes a rating go backwards... this happens because the player has to experiment a bit to find out how to incorporate the new ideas into their play. Progress is never a straight line it's always more like 1 step back, 2 steps forward.

llama36

Plus, at the end of the day, people who are really good at something, are probably not healthy people tongue.png 

At some point they were probably obsessed. Many are still obsessed. It's not a healthy way to live your life. Sometimes I think that if a truly wise person existed, they must be bad at everything other than living in the moment and enjoying the company of others (something like that).

So yeah, improvement (in chess or anything) sucks. It takes a certain amount of pathology to overcome that. 1000 is a good goal. If you're stressed, maybe take a week off. You may not have realized how hard 1000 is, or how much obsession some people have.

tygxc

#1

"I can't even get up to 700." ++ It is a matter of mental discipline. Always check your intended move is no blunder before you play it. Hang no pieces, hang no pawns and you are 1500.

"I just lost so much in one night"
++ Whenever you lose a game, stop playing and analyse it first.

"I'm studying openings" ++ A waste of time & effort

"opened a chessable account" ++ Not useful

"playing unrated daily games" ++ Not useful

"I've been watching Gotham, John Bartholomew, and even Chessbrah" ++ Not useful

"I've been doing puzzles and keeping a puzzle elo over 900." ++ Aim higher.

"Should I just give up and just admit that i'm never gonna see four digits?"
++ No, admit you did the wrong things.

ELVITOTO

Assuming you know your tactics, and basic endgames.

Then it's a problem of attitude, you have the wrong attitude you start a game thinking that you're going to lose.

You need to recover your motivation.

Because if you studied your lessons and you're still failing, it's something else.

ELVITOTO

Also, when you play live chess you only have to focus on it.

Don't do 2 things at the same time.

BlueHen86
NervesofButter wrote:

 

Funny that Einstein never said that, but people keep attributing it to him over and over again.

llama36
NervesofButter wrote:

 

So quick to make it an attack on someone's character that you didn't even realize this doesn't fit. He's had this account less than 1 month and his rating has gone up ~200 points. If he gets the same results for a year he'll be rated higher than Carlsen.

But of course that's what you do, berate people to make yourself feel better... hey, has it worked yet? No? You wouldn't be guilty of expecting different results now would you... see how easy it is to pick on people.

llama36

Facts like correctly quoting Einstein, I see, I see.

llama36
NervesofButter wrote:
nMsALpg wrote:

Facts like correctly quoting Einstein, I see, I see.

Read my reply to bluehen86 about that.

My first reply to you already addressed that.

PawnTsunami
AbbyTheButcher wrote:

I have tried Chessable and before you even comment on this thread, Russell Bell, I swear to god I have seen your comment and blog post on every forum thread in this forum. If that didn't help on every forum thread here before, what makes you think it's gonna work on the next one!?!

What exactly did you try in Chessable?  Did you grab a couple opening courses or did you get the tactics and endgames courses?  (They have strategy courses as well, but personally I do not find drilling strategic concepts as useful as concrete ones).

idilis
AhPhoey wrote:

Wheres Russell Bell when you need him??? *Snip*

So who else can fill the void left by spongey

idilis

https://www.chess.com/game/live/53436003811

Just looked at your last lost game. Why did just you sac the bishop early in the opening?  I hope you're aware of the relative value of pieces? If this is not representative of how you play, please post the games were should look at.  Help us help you.

idilis
AbbyTheButcher wrote:

*Snip* I get opening principles, I try to follow them. I have a handful of openings I play and have practiced regularly. I am working on pawn placement and endgames. I've been doing puzzles and keeping a puzzle elo over 900. *Snip*

Looks like you've skipped the basics? Perhaps do more targeted puzzles to understand various basic patterns?

llama36
idilis wrote:

https://www.chess.com/game/live/53436003811

Just looked at your last lost game. Why did just you sac the bishop early in the opening?  I hope you're aware of the relative value of pieces? If this is not representative of how you play, please post the games were should look at.  Help us help you.

That was his opponent.

idilis
nMsALpg wrote:
idilis wrote:

https://www.chess.com/game/live/53436003811

Just looked at your last lost game. Why did just you sac the bishop early in the opening?  I hope you're aware of the relative value of pieces? If this is not representative of how you play, please post the games were should look at.  Help us help you.

That was his opponent.

Looks like I need to get my own basics right.

Should have mentioned the queen hang just a few moves later