White to move is this mate in 3

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Nope it's not mate in 3

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Why?

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Oh damn yes it's is mate in 3 . I was trying to mate the white king itself with the white knight and found that it was almost I impossible. Lol yes white can mate black in 3

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take the queens

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yea take the queens

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But it's stalemate

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wait no...

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IT IS CHECKMATE OMG

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After White plays NxQ Black is stalemated.  KxN would be moving into check so White only has knight moves.  If White takes any other piece then Black's only move is a recapture and now White is stalemated.

So it is mate in one but it is not checkmate in one.

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jetoba wrote:

After White plays NxQ Black is stalemated.  KxN would be moving into check so White only has knight moves.  If White takes any other piece then Black's only move is a recapture and now White is stalemated.

So it is mate in one but it is not checkmate in one.

Wrong, black has Nb2 after White plays Nxc4 (assuming we are looking from Black's PoV)

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Done

 

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and change your profile pic @1c3e51-0 

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33eric2008 wrote:
jetoba wrote:

After White plays NxQ Black is stalemated.  KxN would be moving into check so White only has knight moves.  If White takes any other piece then Black's only move is a recapture and now White is stalemated.

So it is mate in one but it is not checkmate in one.

Wrong, black has Nb2 after White plays Nxc4 (assuming we are looking from Black's PoV)

Missed Nb2.

If White flagged in this position it would be a loss in US Chess, FIDE and Chess.com rules (Black bounces between d1 and b2 until White finishes the Nc4-e5-d3-f4-e2-g3-f1-h2 trek, at which point Black plays Qxh2#).  If Black flagged in this position it would be a win in US Chess and FIDE rules and a draw in Chess.com.

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jetoba wrote:
33eric2008 wrote:
jetoba wrote:

After White plays NxQ Black is stalemated.  KxN would be moving into check so White only has knight moves.  If White takes any other piece then Black's only move is a recapture and now White is stalemated.

So it is mate in one but it is not checkmate in one.

Wrong, black has Nb2 after White plays Nxc4 (assuming we are looking from Black's PoV)

Missed Nb2.

If White flagged in this position it would be a loss in US Chess, FIDE and Chess.com rules (Black bounces between d1 and b2 until White finishes the Nc4-e5-d3-f4-e2-g3-f1-h2 trek, at which point Black plays Qxh2#).  If Black flagged in this position it would be a win in US Chess and FIDE rules and a draw in Chess.com.

can you explain?

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Not sure which you are referring to (1=the knight trek and 2=the flag issue, also known as losing on time)

 

1) White doesn't have to mate Black and can instead make other moves to free up the position enough for Black to mate White. (only significant if White's time expires.

 

2) Chess.com rules say that a lone King or King and Knight or King and Bishop or King and two Knights is not enough to win on time even if there is a forced win for the unflagged player.  They also say that any other material is enough to win on time even if there is no possible win by the unflagged player (such as in a totally blocked position).  FIDE says that if the flagged player can be help-mated then a win on time can be awarded and also says that if checkmate is impossible then the game is automatically drawn.  US Chess is similar to FIDE with the exception that if the unflagged player has a K, K+N, K+B or K+2N (with no opposing pawns) is only a win for the unflagged player if that player has a forced mate of the flagged opponent.

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Bad article!

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chess bots say that white is obviously winning, no matter what, 

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The good question is : how do you arrive at this state ? ;-)