A brilliant improvised Scandinavian Trap, and the shocking computer analysis
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Jan 13, 2022
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It's a queen for two minor pieces by the way, not a queen for a knight (you also call it being down 6 points when it's 3).
Yeah, a queen for two minor pieces is rarely good. The big problem for black is after 8.Qxd3 Qxd3 9.Ng3 the move Bb5+puts black's king in the middle and white has tons of activity.
Jan 13, 2022
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Thanks llama, fixed my post to have the full game.
I meant after the trades, it's a queen for a knight at that point, although of course queen is lost again. Actually, after the trades are finished I'm down a pawn and queen, and up a bishop and knight, which is 4, not 6 or 3? Let me know, analysis tool doesn't show piece advantage that I can see.
This has made me more hesitant to develop my knight to the second rank in uncertain openings. That would have prevented the whole ordeal in this case.
Jan 13, 2022
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#5
Yeah, in the game you had two minor pieces for a queen and pawn, so 6 - 10 = -4
As for developing the knight to the 2nd rank, this game is a very unique situation, I wouldn't try to generalize any lessons from it.
While I'm guessing your opponent was just doing random stuff, your game is in good company, there is a famous queen for two minor piece sacrifice from the legendary Nezhmetdinov:
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I was white, and black played a Scandinavian Defense followed by bishop to f5. after some normal development and a pawn trade, I decided to bring my kings knight to e2, an unusual move but one the computer ranks as good. Black moved his knight to threaten c2, so I pushed a pawn to block the bishop, considered the best move.
At only move 6, the game analysis gives black a brilliant for the next move, and I can't disagree. His bishop begins the trade with cxd3. While I'm ahead after the trades, I am in check and because my knight is on E2, will be forced to lose my queen one way or another. Believe it or not, the computer believes I had not made an inaccuracy yet, even though my queen will be lost no matter what and I will be at a 6 point disadvantage afterwards with no immediate follow up. I actually have a tiny advantage. However, I decided to delay losing my queen by moving my king, leaving a queen rook fork, forcing my king to the third rank, effectively ending the game.
The following computer analysis shows that had I traded the queen for the knight, not only would I have fared better, but after a few moves the best move for black quickly involves sacrificing his own queen. You can keep forcing the computer to try to save the queen indefinitely, however the position for black becomes weaker and weaker until the piece advantage is slowly eroded, even if it takes 20 moves. I highly recommend opening the analysis and checking this out.
I had never seen anything like this before and I really hope this is appreciated and maybe even analyzed by someone smarter than I.