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My game has descended into absolute c'raphole where I lose to lowrated-chumps however the "can" is where I put my foot down and say "NO-freakin'-way!"
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I don't care, I still win

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Imagine sitting in the can and trying to get "it" out can be a lavatorial hardship. Now playing these types of games, Caro-Can's can give you hazards of constipation on the king-side.
And what followed in this case was a rage-quit where black tried to punished white with flagging things (himself) out with more than 4 min on the clock

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bleksvift έγραψε:

Imagine sitting in the can and trying to get "it" out can be a lavatorial hardship. Now playing these types of games, Caro-Can's can give you hazards of constipation on the king-side.And what followed in this case was a rage-quit where black tried to punished white with flagging things (himself) out with more than 4 min on the clock

Funny comment. It is White the one which has some issues on the kingside after 4...Be4! and 7...Qd6! due to the softness of the g3 square.

White may not lose so badly as Paco did here, but you cannot find many followers of the line- quite the opposite.

I don't play the Caro for a couple of reasons (mainly that Black gets an extremely solid position where he hardly has something active to do, and just waits for White making something silly), but it would be all that that I would play if I knew that Black will play 4.g4?!

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pfren wrote:
bleksvift έγραψε:

Imagine sitting in the can and trying to get "it" out can be a lavatorial hardship. Now playing these types of games, Caro-Can's can give you hazards of constipation on the king-side.And what followed in this case was a rage-quit where black tried to punished white with flagging things (himself) out with more than 4 min on the clock

Funny comment. It is White the one which has some issues on the kingside after 4...Be4! and 7...Qd6! due to the softness of the g3 square.

White may not lose so badly as Paco did here, but you cannot find many followers of the line- quite the opposite.

I don't play the Caro for a couple of reasons (mainly that Black gets an extremely solid position where he hardly has something active to do, and just waits for White making something silly), but it would be all that that I would play if I knew that Black will play 4.g4?!

 

Now of course funny and silly are my middle names. happy

From a 2200 in rapid I have dropped 200 points and I am in a bad place, nevertheless chess sometimes rewards me immensely so I still keep playing, blundering mate in ones like crazy. I even missed a scholar mate today.

Ok here is the reward...

I have just played this... This is the "Can-stipation" version. Total lock-down on the kingside. YES if stockfish and GM's play this this "might" not happen. However this is happening to me everyday. These are not bad players if they played anything but this. It is not that I win by crazy tactics! The lock-down is the king! Everyday!!! 
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Nice

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The fun thing is that in the last game I showcased, went with my knight to take the pawn on e6. However I changed my mind as I told myself: "Idiot, if you wanted pawn-grabbing you will give laxatives to a constipated man!" So I turned my horse around and said "No. Thank you for the pawn! Let's keep the constipation in place!" And so I rerouted my knight. So my advice is to avoid falling for these temptations.

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Another backed up position as the Can is on the board. Look a knight (Nh6 move) is trying to break free and dies right away... 
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It’s spelled Caro Kanin
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Ment to say Caro Kanin
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C.a.r.o K.a.n.n
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Honestly, the Caro-Kann feels like a positional trap — if your opponent doesn’t know the right plan, they just end up suffering all the way through the endgame, stuck in that same “can” you were talking about.

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Just played this one:
The engine verdict is white 2500 rapid elo vs black 2100 rapid elo. So black is not having a bad game, however he suffered from Kahnstipational issues. 
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How Caro Players see their beloved Caro-Kann...

How the Panov and Fantasy lines see it...

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As a Caro-Kann player I learned the hard way Bf5 is a bad move. Countless games I have lost... but never have I seen this g4 pawn attack. Very cool move. Moral of the story, play the Botvinnik-Carls attack.

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in the 39th move, there is a fork of knight between the king and rook and it's a faster checkmate, do u see it?

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ChessUnicorn_CN wrote:

in the 39th move, there is a fork of knight between the king and rook and it's a faster checkmate, do u see it?

No idea what you are talking about. Please do tell...

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getdizzygetjaded wrote:

As a Caro-Kann player I learned the hard way Bf5 is a bad move. Countless games I have lost... but never have I seen this g4 pawn attack. Very cool move. Moral of the story, play the Botvinnik-Carls attack.

At least black should pull the bishop back on d7 or invest 1000s of hours on theories on the Bayonet line (g4 move) to keep the bishop on c1-h7-diagonal.

I played this line with black and when I was hit by the Bayonet I said to myself: "No more!".