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David_Spencer

In the open games (e4 e5) playing f5 as Black seems to be strong, and I use it a lot. Playing ...f5 strikes at the e4 pawn, it can help your c8 bishop get out and it opens the f-file for your Rook to attack your opponent's King and the f3 Knight. Here's the second game I've played that I remember with this idea, where I beat a 1700 USCF with Black in just 27 moves in a national tournament!

Mm40

If you like this, you'll probably like to play the king's gambit as white and the latvian gambit as black.

David_Spencer

No, I don't like openings that are quite that risky. The King's Gambit is OK with me for blitz, but I prefer to have tactics and equal material instead of being down a pawn for tactics. The Latvian just feels terrible, I don't think I would even play it in blitz because there was a 1500 in my area who played it for a while in blitz games and got consistently mauled. I mean playing f5 in a solid situation where I can get my bishop in a good spot and my rook on an open file.

bondiggity

If 11. Bb3, what would your compensation for the pawn be?

David_Spencer

How am I down a pawn? Trading Bishops looks acceptable, and maybe I can even get away with Qe7. EDIT Oh, I missed the fork. Humm, I guess Qe7 is forced.

bondiggity
SirDavid wrote:

How am I down a pawn? Trading Bishops looks acceptable, and maybe I can even get away with Qe7.


If 11...Bxb3 12. Qxb3+ and your b-pawn falls

 

If 11...Qe7, the simple exf5 puts you in trouble.

David_Spencer

I got out Fritz which gives Bf7 dropping the pawn as best with a clear advantage to White. Also, there was a previous game with two players whose strengths you don't know where Qf6 drew. You're right, I guess I got lucky on this one.

bondiggity

The f5 maneuver can be a great way to start a kingside attack, but must be played extremely carefully if it is not known as a common motif of the opening system (ex. KID). Opening the diagonal can allow your opponent counterplay, and these possibilities should be considered.

 

Nonetheless, you did a fantastic job finishing the game off tactically, and you shouldn't let this taint your fantastic win.

David_Spencer

Thanks! It usually isn't a problem because I have to play Kh8/Kh7 to unpin and my King is already off the diagonal.

uritbon

i too find myself often finding a plan that involves f5 in games like this, but remember it is not always as strong, as i have learned, often there are simpler and more effective ways of winning, and you must consider everything, don't limit your imagination!

Minato

nice game, I like to push the f pawn as both colors to open up the file for my rook in open games, like you said