The King's Indian works fine against the London.
I use that, in fact ( Nf6-Bg7-d6 ), and I'm quite well. But it’s just a KID setup against a London System; what comes out of it is not a real King's Indian Defense game.
Can you confirm it ? I understand very little about openings, I’m just a classification enthusisast.
The King's Indian works fine against the London.
I use that, in fact ( Nf6-Bg7-d6 ), and I'm quite well. But it’s just a KID setup against a London System; what comes out of it is not a real King's Indian Defense game.
Can you confirm it ? I understand very little about openings, I’m just a classification enthusisast.
blueemu never really specified if it was a setup or the traditional defense, to be fair
Do as I do and premove 1...b5. You'll lose the pawn (almost) every time your opponent plays e4. Then you'll learn to appreciate when your opponent plays d4 since you won't be starting the game down a pawn with your opponent's bishop pointing at your king.
"1 d4 dull & drawish" - Fischer
"I have never opened 1 d4, on principle" - Fischer,
though he did play 1 c4 against Spassky in 1972, transposing
I think you are just a whiny baby. Don’t complain about what moves your opponents make. If they do play it then make the moves that you find exciting to make them respond to your choices. It’s almost like you don’t actually know what different openings are if you complain about d4.
Personally I like it only because I read a couple opening ideas that start with d4 so I feel more comfortable playing according to that. I also really like the 1.b4 which is the Polish opening. Why? Only because another player played it against me and I didn’t know how to respond until I read about it.
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Do as I do and premove 1...b5. You'll lose the pawn (almost) every time your opponent plays e4. Then you'll learn to appreciate when your opponent plays d4 since you won't be starting the game down a pawn with your opponent's bishop pointing at your king.
You saw me in the other thread, I play b4 every game as white but b5? Nah. b6, or an incompetent Sicilian (seems fun, always leads to chaos).
Play englund Gambit and win ..... believe me, it's not a clear win or white even if they don't fall for the trap....u are still gonna love ur position because as per ur rating, everything works ....
Playing the Englund means that you are playing for cheap tricks.
Not necessarily. A discredited opening is really only discredited in high level play.
The Englund gambit loses by force, but whom at the 1200 level has studied enough to know the lines? Even without the traps, the Englund gambit does what it intends to do, forces white to play a e4 opening by sacrificing material. The loss of a pawn hurts, but being a pawn down is not a huge disadvantage for a 1200 level player. Especially considering the d4 player may not be familiar with e4 play.
I think you are just a whiny baby. Don’t complain about what moves your opponents make. If they do play it then make the moves that you find exciting to make them respond to your choices. It’s almost like you don’t actually know what different openings are if you complain about d4.
Personally I like it only because I read a couple opening ideas that start with d4 so I feel more comfortable playing according to that. I also really like the 1.b4 which is the Polish opening. Why? Only because another player played it against me and I didn’t know how to respond until I read about it.
Forgive me for finding it boring to watch paint dry.
And interesting you should mention b4, it is my main white opening. I play wacky things often, I simply find d4 games (more probably the sort of player to play it) boring.
Not necessarily. A discredited opening is really only discredited in high level play.
The Englund gambit loses by force, but whom at the 1200 level has studied enough to know the lines? Even without the traps, the Englund gambit does what it intends to do, forces white to play a e4 opening by sacrificing material. The loss of a pawn hurts, but being a pawn down is not a huge disadvantage for a 1200 level player. Especially considering the d4 player may not be familiar with e4 play.
I was able to refute the Englund very easily when I was at 1200. I did have to read a book on it but it is not very hard to remember. Here is a pgn
This just loses by force and sure you need to remember a few key moves but it's not hard to remember
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ive had some really exciting attacking games in the london with white. how boring it is depends on how black plays for me
There's more life in a muddy stick on the road than in any 1. d4 positions.
If you want you can learn the englund gambit which counters people who use d4 pretty hard if they don't know how to stop it.
ok yes its true that 1.d4 players are typically boring people who want a dry game, but that also goes for everyone who plays the Italian/ruy lopez as well as mainline najdorfs that are forced draws. but you just need to learn positional chess (QGD would be a great place to start) or learn some exciting lines (dutch and KID come to mind).
ok yes its true that 1.d4 players are typically boring people who want a dry game, but that also goes for everyone who plays the Italian/ruy lopez as well as mainline najdorfs that are forced draws. but you just need to learn positional chess (QGD would be a great place to start) or learn some exciting lines (dutch and KID come to mind).
Yes and no. I play the Queen's Gambit which is the most ambitious attempt with a slight exception of Nf3. Now, people tend to hate tension in the Queen's Gambit and release the tension too soon. The only exception would be the Queen's Gambit Declined as it is still a dynamic game. That's only if they play Queen's Gambit. I should also note that I'm not the biggest fan when people go for e3 so soon as it tends to be too slow and dull for my taste
The sidelines are where most of the boring players are like London, Torre, and Colle but not the Blackmar-Diemer as those guys are trying to have fun.
Play englund Gambit and win ..... believe me, it's not a clear win or white even if they don't fall for the trap....u are still gonna love ur position because as per ur rating, everything works ....
Playing the Englund means that you are playing for cheap tricks. Even if your opponent falls for the traps and you win, you will have learned nothing from the game. Instead of playing for cheap traps, why not play a line that will help you learn proper chess?
i premove e5 in unrated blitz, so i get to play euglund quite often.
Only 1.E4 or 1.d4 should be allowed then no need for random chess and opening theory be cut down. Change my mind.