2014 Chess Olympiad (Tromsø)

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The teams that have won the last five Olympiads get weak opposition after bad starts, Bangladesh for Ukraine and Costa Rica for Armenia.

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So maybe some teams are not trying very hard on purpose so it will benefit them in the pairings.

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I doubt that, losing matches is very costly, last time around Russia scored 9 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss nd it was still to enough for gold. Difficult to be forced to score all wins in the last 7-8 rounds.

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Games to look forward to tomorrow: Carlsen-Wojtaszek, MVL-Mamedyarov, Giri-Gelfand.

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Loss against US?

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fabelhaft wrote:

I doubt that, losing matches is very costly, last time around Russia scored 9 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss nd it was still to enough for gold. Difficult to be forced to score all wins in the last 7-8 rounds.

I agree with you, but I do think the teams are more even this year, and that many big nations will drop points they didnt dream of. Norway 2 did draw Ukraina , and Finland made draw against Norway 1.

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"Loss against US?"

Yes, with Kramnik's only Olympiad loss this far, against Nakamura.

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Aren't all the games in round 3 finished? Why is the site (chess-results.com) not updated?

Edit: never mind , they just did.

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And a big pooh-pooh at Indian players Anand and Harikrishna, for not stepping up to represent their homeland. They should be ashamed.

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varelse1 wrote:

And a big pooh-pooh at Indian players Anand and Harikrishna, for not stepping up to represent their homeland. They should be ashamed.

At least they aren't traitors like Caruana and playing for another federation.

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Steve212000 wrote:
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:

And a big pooh-pooh at Indian players Anand and Harikrishna, for not stepping up to represent their homeland. They should be ashamed.

At least they aren't traitors like Caruana and playing for another federation.

There's a person named Harikrishna? Anand obviously felt he needed to concentate on his upcoming match. That's OK, isn't it?

Magnus is so good now that Anand must do what he can to prepare.

My guess is that Magnus does better, preparing with a tournament where he can meet players he never met before. Supertalents that brings new things into the game.

Anand is smarter than me, and knows himself better than I do, so I guess he does what he has to do.

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It looks like tomorrow will be a tough match for the U.S., they have South Africa. I wonder if the U.S. can squeak out a win.

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The last tournament Magnus will play in before his match will likely be the Sinquefield Cup, the highest rated tournament in history. 10 games, not 5 like the Zurich tournament that broke the record recently for highest average rating. Vishy looks to be resting while Magnus is playing the strongest event in history just 2 weeks after he finishes this Olympiad.

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Anand is playing Bilbao chess in Sept.

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So he will at least get another tournament in before the match.

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MrDamonSmith wrote:

The last tournament Magnus will play in before his match will likely be the Sinquefield Cup, the highest rated tournament in history. 10 games, not 5 like the Zurich tournament that broke the record recently for highest average rating. Vishy looks to be resting while Magnus is playing the strongest event in history just 2 weeks after he finishes this Olympiad.

Different things works for different people. It looks like younger players often take advantage of hard matching. Urkedal did play the Norwegian Championship. Team one didnt. Urkedal looks better than his rating.

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The chess Olympiad appears to be the only event where the elite players get to play regular, non superstars. The top 10 players in the world mainly just play each other in 5 or 6 round robins each year. They never seem to play open swiss tournaments. Its fun to watch them compete against other players rather than just against each other. I would like to see a few of them, Magnus especially, just show up unexpectedly at a major open swiss, or a few of them. But for now the Olympiad will do.

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SilentKnighte5 wrote:

US loses to Netherlands. Maybe we can switch Kamsky to board #1.

Didn't the US lose to the Netherlands in the World Cup last month as well...

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There is much talk about China being the rising power of chess. Subjectively I have felt that the list of Super GMs is getting packed with the chinese recently so I got interested in the exact distribution of Super GMs per country. Here is the full picture:

             
  Number of Super GMs per country  
  Rank Country Number of Super GMs Average rating Players  
  1 Russia 10 2745.9 Grischuk(2797.0) Karjakin(2788.9) Kramnik(2764.0) Svidler(2753.6) Jakovenko(2747.0) Vitiugov(2742.0) Morozevich(2731.0) Andreikin(2722.0) Nepomniachtchi(2712.2) Tomashevsky(2701.0)  
  2 China 5 2726.0 DingLiren(2746.9) BuXiangzhi(2730.6) WangHao(2730.0) WangYue(2711.5) LiChao(2711.0)  
  3 Ukraine 4 2720.8 Ivanchuk(2733.9) Eljanov(2720.9) Ponomariov(2720.3) Kryvoruchko(2708.0)  
  4 France 3 2735.3 Vachier-Lagr(2770.4) Bacrot(2720.3) Fressinet(2715.2)  
  5 India 2 2755.0 Anand(2785.0) Harikrishna(2725.0)  
  6 Azerbaijan 2 2731.0 Mamedyarov(2738.5) Radjabov(2723.5)  
  7 Norway 1 2874.7 Carlsen(2874.7)  
  8 Italy 1 2804.7 Caruana(2804.7)  
  9 Armenia 1 2801.0 Aronian(2801.0)  
  10 United-States 1 2786.4 Nakamura(2786.4)  
  11 Bulgaria 1 2776.0 Topalov(2776.0)  
  12 Cuba 1 2761.7 Dominguez(2761.7)  
  13 Philippines 1 2755.0 So(2755.0)  
  14 Israel 1 2754.8 Gelfand(2754.8)  
  15 Netherlands 1 2750.0 Giri(2750.0)  
  16 Hungary 1 2743.5 Leko(2743.5)  
  17 England 1 2739.6 Adams(2739.6)  
  18 Poland 1 2735.3 Wojtaszek(2735.3)  
  19 Czech-Republic 1 2721.3 Navara(2721.3)  
  20 Latvia 1 2714.5 Shirov(2714.5)  
  21 Georgia 1 2713.5 Jobava(2713.5)  
  22 Germany 1 2711.1 Naiditsch(2711.1)  
  23 Vietnam 1 2709.7 LeQuangLiem(2709.7)  
          source: 2700chess.com  
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One of the games to watch today:

Ding Liren vs Grisjuk.

http://www.nrk.no/sport/sjakk/?sjakkparti=3128