4 years to become a chess master

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hpmobil

I took a trainer. We analyze a game each two weeks for two hours. Don't be greedy. Take the stongest one you can get. If this is impossible, then take your analysis to the club and discuss it there. You'll get alot of good hints there.

Aetheldred

Chess_Troller, I've visiting chess.com since 2011, and I can safely say this is the most instructive thread I've seen in a good while. For me, it's even better than the study plans that are offered here, and most of the paid articles chess.com publishes. nimzoroy, hicetnunc and of course the almighty IM pfren springs to mind as well. Andy Clifton was also a very valuable member.

You may be a troll, but you are a kind one, a good person, because you are helping others out of kindness, and this is priceless.

As for me, if you ever need help with Spanish (translating, pronunciation, whatever) just let me know, I'm at your service. I admire people like you and they should be both rewarded and encouraged. 

I don't know you are, but I'm going to follow your advice to the letter.

Chess_Troller
Aetheldred hat geschrieben:

Chess_Troller, I've visiting chess.com since 2011, and I can safely say this is the most instructive thread I've seen in a good while. For me, it's even better than the study plans that are offered here, and most of the paid articles chess.com publishes. nimzoroy, hicetnunc and of course the almighty IM pfren springs to mind as well. Andy Clifton was also a very valuable member.

You may be a troll, but you are a kind one, a good person, because you are helping others out of kindness, and this is priceless.

As for me, if you ever need help with Spanish (translating, pronunciation, whatever) just let me know, I'm at your service. I admire people like you and they should be both rewarded and encouraged. 

I don't know you are, but I'm going to follow your advice to the letter.

Thank you very much Aetheldred, I always enjoy it when I can help others. I mean when I am good at something then why not help the others to get as good as me? Smile I will surely follow up with more chess content. I worked a lot with a good friend of mine (GM) so I have some pretty good experience with study plans and chess improvement. Jenium just asked the question how to analyse your own games. This can hardly be explained without an example game, so could anyone please post one of his games? Cheers

Chess_Troller

lol and could you tell me what "sorry, I cant speak Spanish" means in Spanish? ThanksLaughing

Pulpofeira

Galician lessons here!

Aetheldred
Chess_Troller wrote:

lol and could you tell me what "sorry, I cant speak Spanish" means in Spanish? Thanks

Lo siento, no hablo español :)

Chess_Troller

Galician? What is that? Laughing

Chess_Troller
Aetheldred hat geschrieben:
Chess_Troller wrote:

lol and could you tell me what "sorry, I cant speak Spanish" means in Spanish? Thanks

Lo siento, no hablo español :)

lol thanks!Laughing

Aetheldred
Chess_Troller wrote:
Aetheldred hat geschrieben:
Chess_Troller wrote:

lol and could you tell me what "sorry, I cant speak Spanish" means in Spanish? Thanks

Lo siento, no hablo español :)

lol thanks!

Are you German? when I see a quote from you I get Aetheldred hat geschrieben:

yureesystem

Boldchess:

Until I met a Russian IM who told me the following: 'Like all club players, there are significant gaps in your chess skills (tacitcal and positional). What you need to do is start again from scratch with a beginner's mind. Start playing again like you were a promising 12-year-old. Without fear. Play sharp openings (Sicilian, King's Indian, 1.e4), study tactics and calculation, then positional chess, then the endgame and after that the opening. Enjoy chess, it's a game! Forget about ratings, try to find the best move in every single position and play it with confidence! Don't bother learning theory. Just learn the first 10 moves of the main lines and try to understand the ideas, where the pieces belong. Makes mistakes and learn from it!'    

 

 

 

 

I agree with you wrote, tactics, strategy and endgame will get to master quicker than any opening study. I read players below expert level about studying pawn structure or some GM games, they don't what they talking about. You be surprise how opening knowledge you learn over the years, definitely will benefit more from studying tactics and endgame technique. I came to a similar conclusion, go as a beginner and relearn everything, I am right now stuck at expert level and follwing a similar idea. I studying Morphy's games and tactical players and later on Steinitz and Chigorin; I believe I will reach master this way. I also will study tactics and endgame and calculation games tactical game. I believe you are in the right track and you be surprise your progress might be quicker than four years, if you really follw the outline you give. Good luck in your goals.

yureesystem

 

hpmobil wrote:

I took a trainer. We analyze a game each two weeks for two hours. Don't be greedy. Take the stongest one you can get. If this is impossible, then take your analysis to the club and discuss it there. You'll get alot of good hints there. 

 

 

 

For me I think trainers are a waste of money: if you study every day andyou are discipline you will progress. It only the lazy player who needs to be push into studying and any good book on tactics and applying yourself to a routine you will get stronger. Every player I met in my chess club who is an expert or master did their own study without a trainers, it is only the players below 1800 Elo who chess teacher and never seem to go up in rating or strength. Trainers are beneficial if are you going to become a professional player and are master level and want to climb higher.

Boldchess

Thank you very much Aetheldred, I always enjoy it when I can help others. I mean when I am good at something then why not help the others to get as good as me?  I will surely follow up with more chess content. I worked a lot with a good friend of mine (GM) so I have some pretty good experience with study plans and chess improvement. Jenium just asked the question how to analyse your own games. This can hardly be explained without an example game, so could anyone please post one of his games? Cheers

Here are two games I played yesterday on the Internet Chess Club (15 minutes games). My handle there is Littlewave.

 




Boldchess
Peternurev wrote:

It is possible to become a Chess Mastser in 4 years ? depends on the person 

Of course but if you don't try... I don't know if I'll achieve this goal. My current FIDE-rating and playing strength is 2080. It means winning 300 points in playing strength within 4 years...

Boldchess

So how should I analyze these games?

aj415

In all honesty.. sounds like u need a complete break from the game and find a new hobby get good. after 3 - 6 months u will come back to chess totally fresh and u will improve. right now ur too emotionally invested and it's a detriment not a asset.. u need remind urself there's other pursuits more invigorating the chess to be obsessed about

aj415

U know with elite athletes.. theres a concept called overtraining? where there amazing workouts that got them to worldclass level become a detriment to them because they do it tooich? but they don't see it they just get frustrated by thier lack of performance? ur in that zone right now

Chess_Troller

I havent got time now to analyse your game, sorry for that. Will do it later. But generally how you should analyse your games is very easy. Begin with the opening. Were you happy about the outcome of the opening? Do you think the line you played is good? Did you or your opponent have serious improvements in the opening? Then you go to the middlegame and ask yourself some questions again. Did you choose the right plan? Was there any alternative? Would this have been better? Did I overlook any tactical continuations? And many more you like. Hope this helped you a bit, I will of course post more when I have time. And by the way, in your first game you missplayed the opening. You played Nc5 after which your opponent could immediatly chase away your knight which is very good for him. When he would have played a3 instead of castle in the next move he white would have been clearly better. 

t-ram87
Boldchess wrote:

So how should I analyze these games?

52... Kb3(or Kb4) and you might have won the endgame, allthough didnt checked it out. Even if game is still draw its quite a blunder i think (blocking your queens diagonal controlling opponents promotion square and making your king stays away. Of course he dont needs play 54.Kxh5 but can play 54.Kh7 to secure his draw.

Well i dont know how to make an analysis, but it is what i do, check endgame positions try to find better alternatives, skim through all the game looking for missed tactics. Evaluate the plan i did in the game (did it worked ? if didnt, why ? was it a bad plan or simply i misplayed it ?) then check some opening source for finding where did i or my opponent go out of theory, was it a good alternative or simply a bad move etc. After all this done, i turn on the engine and ask all the questions again while he is kibitzing. I usually cant believe how much i missed.

Usually i make some strange moves to activate my position, after a very hard game i think a made a bad decision there because of the resources my opponent shown me. With engine analysis i usually see engine likes my ideas also he marks the moves best tries which i believed simply bad for my opponent in my analysis while playing the game. i first won 20 elo then lost 13 elo in 2 consequent tournaments, had around 1500 elo but i believe i played like 1200. But strange one is i play like 15-20 moves (not necessarily from start) series computers first move or i even improve on computers moves, then make 1-2 simple blunders. Or i just blunder and start to play like engine (drawn a middle game position rook down (for 2 pawn) and it finished with R+R+P+P vs R+B+P both quality and pawn down still drawed) Analyzing my games i seen i handle complicated positions much better than my opponents (1100-1900 elo) but made simple mistakes more (compared to 1300+ opponents) and made endgame mistakes more (compared to 1400+ opponents)

cdowis75
Chess_Troller wrote:

Galician? What is that? 

Gaelic is the Scottish native language.

BlcScorpion

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