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ozzie_c_cobblepot

So this means that in a parallel universe, I am a 1200-rated patzer playing across the board from 1200-rated patzer Reb?

goldendog
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

So this means that in a parallel universe, I am a 1200-rated patzer playing across the board from 1200-rated patzer Reb?


Larry, Moe, and tonydal would be Curly (or Shemp for some of you).

MyCowsCanFly

I think that's called "Silly String Theory."

Conflagration_Planet
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

So this means that in a parallel universe, I am a 1200-rated patzer playing across the board from 1200-rated patzer Reb?


 Actually I was in a hurry when I wrote that. There IS a theory about possible parallel universes, but this one describes a possible infinite universe. It's the inflationary theory whitch states that if the universe is infinite then this earth (and everything else) would have to repeat an infinite number of times. So indeed it IS true that you could be a 1200 rated patzer playing Red who is also 1200 rated. Or perhaps Anand who is rated even lower because he never had a chance to learn. Anything that could possibly happen to you on this earth has happened to you on an identical earth somewhere else in the universe.

thesexyknight
orangehonda wrote:

There's also a universe where (nearly) everything is the same as ours except chess is only ever played with pieces made out of cheese.  Sadly in this universe woodshover is allergic to cheese -- not the kind of allergic you're thinking of, if he ever so much as smells cheese on someone's breath it causes a rainstorm of fudge to happen somewhere on earth (even the underground parts).  In this universe such "allergies" are common and such people identified and quarantined at birth, for even in such universes these people are considered very odd and something of a cruel joke played by god.


lol

thesexyknight

And just saying, but this talk of infinite universes mostly refers to an infinite number of POSSIBLE universes. Each universe is digressed by a different decision that someone makes. But then of course there's Stephen Hawkings who believes that at the beginning of time there was an infinite number of parallel universes but their numbers have been reducing because they are consumed by black holes that have these rippling effects between dimensions that cause a transfer in matter and there will eventually be one universe with all the matter.

So. There will eventually be an infinite # of ozzies, rebs, and tonydals at all different ratings playing against eachother and having a grand old time. That is except for the tonydal that is allergic to the cheese pieces and is quarentined to prevent fudge rain.

ElectricEel

Well, if you'd paid a bit more attention to theoretical physics, you would have noticed that it would all be possible...

Stemming from the same theory as that which gave us infinite parallel universes (and infinite points of divergence), we also have the neat little theory that says anything could happen (according to theoretical physics). Anything, as in we could potentially walk through a wall, suddenly teleport from the US to Saudi Arabia and back again in a fraction of a femtosecond, all without having realised it, etc. Though of course chances of the above happening are all very small. Better make that very, very small. So whatever you suggest would be literally physically possible.

Conflagration_Planet
ElectricEel wrote:

Well, if you'd paid a bit more attention to theoretical physics, you would have noticed that it would all be possible...

Stemming from the same theory as that which gave us infinite parallel universes (and infinite points of divergence), we also have the neat little theory that says anything could happen (according to theoretical physics). Anything, as in we could potentially walk through a wall, suddenly teleport from the US to Saudi Arabia and back again in a fraction of a femtosecond, all without having realised it, etc. Though of course chances of the above happening are all very small. Better make that very, very small. So whatever you suggest would be literally physically possible.


I've heard that as well. Quantum physics where particles can be two places at once, and even travel in time, but I was talking about the inflationary universe theory at this time.  

Conflagration_Planet
kramakintews wrote:

and there is a universe where Spock beats Kirk at 3D chess?

(Spock's Beard- awesome prog rock band)


 Yep.

robtaussig
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


This doesn't illustrate the point that you are trying to make. In fact, the point you are trying to make is inherently wrong. In an infinite loop, every possible outcome happens. In your example, odd numbers are ruled out as possibilities from the start, and that is why they never occur. So true, in an infinite series of numbers, some numbers may not ever occur, but all possible numbers will. It is debatable that woodshover's assumption that anything "impossible" on this earth would also be impossible in a parrallel universe, but if true, the "impossible" category would be analogous to your odd numbers, whereas anything possible on this earth is analogous to your even numbers, which will all play out in the infinite loop.

Jahgro
gramarnazi wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


This doesn't illustrate the point that you are trying to make. In fact, the point you are trying to make is inherently wrong. In an infinite loop, every possible outcome happens. In your example, odd numbers are ruled out as possibilities from the start, and that is why they never occur. So true, in an infinite series of numbers, some numbers may not ever occur, but all possible numbers will. It is debatable that woodshover's assumption that anything "impossible" on this earth would also be impossible in a parrallel universe, but if true, the "impossible" category would be analogous to your odd numbers, whereas anything possible on this earth is analogous to your even numbers, which will all play out in the infinite loop.


No, my point was that just because you have an infinite set of something, it doesn't mean that set contains what you want.  Parallel universes are a set, and each universe is an element of that set.  Who the heck are you to say which universes exist in this set and which ones don't?  Even the brightest minds of the world can't tell us anything about this theory beyond what they speculate, yet for some reason you seem to be able to.

You people are so weird.  This is a theory without even a hint of a proof, and already you "know" what exists in parallel universes and what doesn't.

PrawnEatsPrawn

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?

Jahgro
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?


yeah, yeah, I get a little too heated sometimes.  Sorry gramarnazi.

Conflagration_Planet
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


 You're wrong. In an infinite number possibilities, if it can happen, it will. An infinite number of times, even!  In your set you are not allowing for the possibility of an odd number, so it won't happen. So your point is NOT right.

ivandh
Jahgro wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?


yeah, yeah, I get a little too heated sometimes. Sorry gramarnazi.


You're the one getting angry at everyone because they prefer to have fun speculating than to listen to you and obey. Do you expect everyone to get up and say "oh, well Jahgro says it can't happen, so let's all forget it..."

At any rate Prawn was not even correcting your grammar.

orangehonda
ivandh wrote:
Jahgro wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?


yeah, yeah, I get a little too heated sometimes. Sorry gramarnazi.


You're the one getting angry at everyone because they prefer to have fun speculating than to listen to you and obey. Do you expect everyone to get up and say "oh, well Jahgro says it can't happen, so let's all forget it..."

At any rate Prawn was not even correcting your grammar.


lol wut?

Conflagration_Planet
ivandh wrote:
Jahgro wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?


yeah, yeah, I get a little too heated sometimes. Sorry gramarnazi.


You're the one getting angry at everyone because they prefer to have fun speculating than to listen to you and obey. Do you expect everyone to get up and say "oh, well Jahgro says it can't happen, so let's all forget it..."

At any rate Prawn was not even correcting your grammar.


 Jahgro's point was wrong anyway, as I pointed out right above.

Jahgro
woodshover wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


 You're wrong. In an infinite number possibilities, if it can happen, it will. An infinite number of times, even!  In your set you are not allowing for the possibility of an odd number, so it won't happen. So your point is NOT right.


So how come you can disallow human gods, yet I can't disallow anything else?  Your logic is major flawed.

Jahgro
ivandh wrote:
Jahgro wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

"You people are so weird."

 

Easy tiger! What's weird about spending one's spare time virtually pushing virtual pieces around a virtual board?


yeah, yeah, I get a little too heated sometimes. Sorry gramarnazi.


You're the one getting angry at everyone because they prefer to have fun speculating than to listen to you and obey. Do you expect everyone to get up and say "oh, well Jahgro says it can't happen, so let's all forget it..."

At any rate Prawn was not even correcting your grammar.


LOL I apologized, didn't I?? Maybe I didn't do it properly.

Plus I'm not against multiverses, I just think not every possible universe necessarily exists.  Which if multiverses do exist, chances are, there are a whole mess of them that don't exist.

PrawnEatsPrawn

Just to clear up a little confusion:

In post #39 Jhago apologises to (username) grammarnazi for his reaction in post #37 to grammarnazi's post #36.