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sharpshot88

I wanted to hear your opinion on chess drawn rules and what you think of them.

Who gets very frustrated when they have been winning a game with you reducing your opponent to just a king but with your material left you cant checkmate, having to declare a draw?

I found out by chance that in shatranj (or how ever you like to spell it), which is medieval chess, they had a rule of baremate.

This is were when one side is reduced to just a king the opposing player wins unless on the very next turn the single king can take the opponents last piece/pawn then a draw is declared.

When I came across this I thought it was a great rule. I cant ever see this rule getting introduced I just thought it was kind of cool.

trysts

It would really change the way the game is played. Because w/ a King against King+Bishop, even though the K+B can't actually mate a lone King, the K+B would win, introducing a new strategy. I think that change is to great for my taste.

algorab
sharpshot88 wrote:

I wanted to hear your opinion on chess drawn rules and what you think of them.

Who gets very frustrated when they have been winning a game with you reducing your opponent to just a king but with your material left you cant checkmate, having to declare a draw?

I found out by chance that in shatranj (or how ever you like to spell it), which is medieval chess, they had a rule of baremate.

This is were when one side is reduced to just a king the opposing player wins unless on the very next turn the single king can take the opponents last piece/pawn then a draw is declared.

When I came across this I thought it was a great rule. I cant ever see this rule getting introduced I just thought it was kind of cool.


 If they got rid of the baremate rule probably it was because the resulting  playability was improved  .

waffllemaster

It also makes it harder to win.

Came across this quote, think it's great applied to chess.

It is one of man’s curious idiosyncrasies to create difficulties for the pleasure of resolving them. -Joseph De Maistre (1753-1821)

trysts
waffllemaster wrote:

It also makes it harder to win.

Came across this quote, think it's great applied to chess.

It is one of man’s curious idiosyncrasies to create difficulties for the pleasure of resolving them. -Joseph De Maistre (1753-1821)


Great quote.

algorab
sharpshot88 wrote:

This is were when one side is reduced to just a king the opposing player wins unless on the very next turn the single king can take the opponents last piece/pawn then a draw is declared.


How would the game change if the King recapture next turn doesn't save from the loss? ex:

WHITE MOVE and WINS

waffllemaster
algorab wrote:
sharpshot88 wrote:

This is were when one side is reduced to just a king the opposing player wins unless on the very next turn the single king can take the opponents last piece/pawn then a draw is declared.


How would the game change if the King recapture next turn doesn't save from the loss? ex:

WHITE MOVE and WINS

 

 


Under these rules it seems both 1.c3 and 1.c4 will win easily for white.

NimzoRoy

In Scrabble, when you're down a few hundred pts there are no drawing or stalemate options. All you can do is reduce the number of pts you lose by, maybe possibly prehaps. However, chess always has the theoretical at least if not always practical chance for someone who's losing to at least pull a draw out of their hat, or their side of the board. But all the players who want to abolish draws in general and/or stalemates never think of that, because they're ALWAYS going to be on the "winning" side of situations such as when one side has more material for instance but not enuff to checkmate with, ie K+N vs K. Isn't that amazing?

I'm also fascinated by the fact I've yet to see any NMs, FMs, IMs or GMs who want to change the rules (at least in the forums here); it's always much lower-rated players who aren't satisfied with the present rules.

algorab
waffllemaster wrote:
algorab wrote:
sharpshot88 wrote:

This is were when one side is reduced to just a king the opposing player wins unless on the very next turn the single king can take the opponents last piece/pawn then a draw is declared.


How would the game change if the King recapture next turn doesn't save from the loss? ex:

WHITE MOVE and WINS

 

 


Under these rules it seems both 1.c3 and 1.c4 will win easily for white.


 I mean Kxe5 would be  baremate because the black king dies with his minion in this variant