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ErrantDeeds

dashkee94, that's a good point. I have emailed the BBC on a couple of occasions to complain about the lack of coverage, most recently regarding the Anand-Kramnik match. Perhaps the chess community has become so used to following the game online, where forthright and critical opinions are frequently aired, that it is simply not feasable to televise. I hope not.

sss3006
ErrantDeeds wrote:

It seems it's a good time to be Indian!

On that subject sss3006, how is Vishy Anand seen in India? Is he getting the recognition he deserves?

Those of you who have downloaded the Olympiad television channel will have noticed that they have ceased showing a repeating loop of the opening ceremony (no more Freddie Mercury!). Now, they simply have a guy walking around the tables videoing the matches. With no commentary. Occasionally, the intrepid cameraman will swing his sights to the notice boards proclaiming the competing countries. Wow, he's found Magnus Carlson. Carlson gets up... he sits back down again. He has a drink. He gets up. Who is he playing? (Cameraman slowly swings up) It's... Germany. This is not televised coverage. This is a man walking around with a camcorder.

Perhaps I shouldn't complain. It is free, after all.


VIshy ? - a living legend no doubt.

Though he has revolutionised chess in India, as a country we continue to be cricket crazy. So lots of money in cricket - very little in chess. Despite this, we are having a lot of young upcoming players (male and female) which is good for the game - here im referring to chess ok? Anyway same is true with cricket :-)

Ray_Brooks
PerfectGent wrote:
Ray_Brooks wrote:

It's a distant memory, but they tried chess on television back in the late 70's/early 80's. I think the show was on BBC2 and called "Master Game". Even for a chess player it was slow.

 

*I cannot guarantee exact factual content of the above post, it was some time ago and I'm getting no sharper.


ray i remember that series ( i stil have the book of the games with commentary) it was great to have the players voicing their thoughts (albeit post game) and not in the least slow


Gent,

I guess it's a matter of taste or perspective, you're some 20 years older than me, it was definitely slow for a teenager, even a chess mad one.

sss3006

hmm - understandable i suppose

Maradonna

My hometown boasted the leading Freddie Mercury impersonator - he even won Stars in Your Eyes grand final (british t.v programme). However, this chap is doing the same, but on ice! I feel our Freddie Mercury is going to have to raise the bar and juggle puppies whilst singing, Fat bottom girls make the rocking world go round.

sss3006
Maradonna wrote:

My hometown boasted the leading Freddie Mercury impersonator - he even won Stars in Your Eyes grand final (british t.v programme). However, this chap is doing the same, but on ice! I feel our Freddie Mercury is going to have to raise the bar and juggle puppies whilst singing, Fat bottom girls make the rocking world go round.


anyway - whats a soccer fan doing in a chess site? :-)

Maradonna

What!?!? This is a chess site? I thought this was internet dating. Looks like I've made a grave error.

NSM seeks NSF with GSOH and..........

JAJAJA, I've run out of acronyms :)

Ray_Brooks

"JAJAJA, I've run out of acronyms :)"

DETM?

(Don't expect too much)

Laughing

victhestick

Here is my two cents.  Chess can be televised with a decent marketing

hook and great editing.  Without both no one will watch, but us.  I can tell

you that I would never watch poker on tv if I had to sit through 80 hands

to catch one good play.  And what was the marketing hook - snippets of

key players in emotional situations, tied to the whisper of a decadent and

romantic game based on gambling.

A live Internet broadcast would be great if it were live.  When one comes

up please post so we can all catch it.

trigs

i think if they edit chess games (similar to how they edit poker games for example) it could really make it a lot more exciting to watch.

victhestick

In the post "chess in the Olympics" we discussed a World Cup style

tourney with six of the top players from each country entered.  The

games would run country against country, six on six.  That would be

fun to watch.

Matches could be edited and there would be enough action to keep

interest.  It would also be cool to catch players reactions to other

games in side by side play.

Maradonna
Ray_Brooks wrote:

"JAJAJA, I've run out of acronyms :)"

DETM?

(Don't expect too much)

 


 Speak for yourself -I'm a primo piece of meat! or PPOM.

Ray_Brooks

"Speak for yourself"

 

Ok... Embarassed

amac7079
trigs wrote:

i think if they edit chess games (similar to how they edit poker games for example) it could really make it a lot more exciting to watch.


Poker unlike chess has preselected moments of action in each hand. In addition, most people have played cards and understand that someone holding a pair of aces or other high hand has an advantage over someone with a lesser hand and can see that played out. In chess, the advantages can be much more subtle and most people cannot pick out a game changing move. Like everything else if it is too complicated or requires extended attention, it is unlikely to draw a viewing audience. 

Shortening chess games to key moments and highlights still requires some broad knowledge on the viewers part. If you want to have someone do a show, find a sponsor that has in interest in the audience. As much as i try, i cannot guess who might have a capitalistic interest in promoting what is viewed as an elitist knowledge sport (unless google wants to start make intellectual achievement sponsorships). It is also difficult when many of the visible stars of the game are not British or American. (Yes they have stars but not generally recognisable to the general population.)

trysts

I typed "water polo" for this thread.

Mohammad049966
To challenge me
ArgoNavis

UP WITH THOSE BUMPS!

+1

Ziggy_Zugzwang

There are many reasons to be angry with the BBC. They are closely associated with MI5 and their nefarious doings...Someone I know who worked there was approached by them...We have no problem accepting the close relationship of more visible totalitarian government running the media - in the West it's more at arm's length and probably more effective because of it.

Anyone from the UK remember the BS about TV detector vans ? Apparently there were vans with battleship like rotating radar dishes going round the houses "detecting" people with no TV licence. Complete BS. I don't recall them ever owning up to this deception.

Twenty minutes before WTC 7 collapsed in it's own footprint, the BBC were reporting that it HAD ALREADY collapsed when it was still standing in the background behind a reporter ! A man was acquitted from paying his TV licence on the basis of the apparent foreknowledge of this, amounted to the broadcaster being linked to terrorist activity  and funding the BBC was therefore tantamount to funding terrorism - true look it up !

The BBC is not the servant of the British people. It's a subtle form of conditioning and misinformation."News" is just propaganda. I also wouldn't trust anything it puts out on modern history either.

dfgh123

i saw a tv detector van the other week didn't have a dish though, it drove to the bottom of the street and drove straight back out, probably just an empty van and just paid to drive around

tv dectector evidence has never been used in a court of law. says it all really

Strangemover

Much as I enjoy catching up with the home guard and their wartime high jinx perhaps the 1/2 hour weekly slot on BBC which has been reserved for 'Dads Army' since 1968 (48 years) could be used for a chess magazine show? Or in fact for ANY new show which the BBC chooses to produce which could help justify the enforced £145.50 annual charge all households with a TV in the UK incur.

This week its snooker coverage all over the schedules. Again, much as I enjoy the white hot action on the green baize from such luminaries as 'Cue-man-Fu' (Marco Fu), 'The Sheriff of Pottingham' (Anthony Hamilton) and 'The Jester from Leicester' (Mark Selby), among other hilariously nicknamed cueists, it is perhaps comparable to chess in terms of sports/games which are played badly by loads of budding amateurs and are difficult to translate into exciting TV. I'll add Double-0-147 (Nigel Bond) to that list just for the craic.