Allen Trefler, his net worth $1 billion.
Any notable amateurs U2200
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Cool but anyone who has more than 1 game I could look up would be great
I cannot match Trefler's performaance but the last year I played over-the-board USCF chess I played 16 tournament games with a final result of 13 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss. along the way I played 5 players in a row of master/grandmaster rating.
A USCF performance rating of approximately 2438.
After, 1973 [due to health reasons] I never played another USCF over-the-board game.
And some of my games are available to view.
That's incredible, Ponz.
When Trefler did this, was it before he made his riches?
How much do you think he won in that tourney?
I wonder if he still competes...
I'm Way below that but I've been killin bit still plan on drinking but beaten 1700 1900 lost my losses come from time or lack of it
best win was 19.... smothered Queen fork of a 2275.
ponz111 wrote:
I cannot match Trefler's performaance but the last year I played over-the-board USCF chess I played 16 tournament games with a final result of 13 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss. along the way I played 5 players in a row of master/grandmaster rating.
A USCF performance rating of approximately 2438.
After, 1973 [due to health reasons] I never played another USCF over-the-board game.
And some of my games are available to view.
Wow, that's an amazing performance! Any tournament tips, Ponz?
thank you that win of mine was a yahoo game 10/15. I never heard of chess computer but the one I would work 12 hrs and force move!
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
chessmicky wrote:
Prbably the greatest performance by an amateur player was turned in by Allen Trefler, who is now a software billionaire. In 1975, he entered the World Open, a rich swiss system tournament held over the long July 4th weekend. Trefler's USCF rating was only 2075 but he finished the tournament tied for first with grandmaster Pal Benko, ahead of 6-time US champ Walter Brown and a host of other grandmasters and international masters.
Software billionaire? Maybe that was the first instance of engine assistance used in a tournament... would easily go unnoticed if he created his own code because engines at that time were mere gimmicks that could beat the average joe off of the street but not even medium club players.
He did not make his money in chess. That you would infer that he might have made his own chess engine to cheat at some tournament is beyond the pale.
Chicken_Monster wrote:
That's incredible, Ponz.
When Trefler did this, was it before he made his riches?
How much do you think he won in that tourney?
I wonder if he still competes...
He made most of his money after that tournament.
He did not win all that much for tieing for first in that tournament.
I may be wrong but do not think he still competes.
I was [and am] very good in tactics so here is what I played vs a former USA Champion. [I had White]
There was that 1700 rated player who beat a grand master OTB using the Smith Morra.
chessmicky wrote:
CJ_P wrote:
There was that 1700 rated player who beat a grand master OTB using the Smith Morra.
Does anyone know his name? Or the GN's?
http://www.chess.com/blog/SonofPearl/beating-a-gm-with-the-morra-gambit
As far as tips from me, I have three
1. If you wish to improve, always try to play players rated 100-400 points above you.
2. You can only improve if you can learn from your mistakes. Find a method to learn your mistakes.
3. The weakest part of games for players rated under 2300 is usually tactics. So this is one area to study.
ponz111 wrote:
I cannot match Trefler's performaance but the last year I played over-the-board USCF chess I played 16 tournament games with a final result of 13 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss. along the way I played 5 players in a row of master/grandmaster rating.
A USCF performance rating of approximately 2438.
After, 1973 [due to health reasons] I never played another USCF over-the-board game.
And some of my games are available to view.
What was your rating back then ?
chessmaster102 wrote:
ponz111 wrote:
I cannot match Trefler's performaance but the last year I played over-the-board USCF chess I played 16 tournament games with a final result of 13 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss. along the way I played 5 players in a row of master/grandmaster rating.
A USCF performance rating of approximately 2438.
After, 1973 [due to health reasons] I never played another USCF over-the-board game.
And some of my games are available to view.
What was your rating back then ?
My USCF rating has been the same for more than 40 years and that is 2188.
I played in the US Open in Chicago in 1973 and my very last game I got credit for was a draw with former Illinois Champion Steve Tennant. This was the 8th round and I had to withdraw from the US Open due to illness.
After that game my USCF rating was 2188 but I heard there was a USCF 4 round "Tornado" tournament in my home town of Kankakee Illinois. I played in that tournament and won the tournament with 4 straight wins [4-0].
Then I knew I had enough to make USCF master.
But then there was another tournament in Kankakee, another 4 round tornado. Should I play in it and risk my master rating? I had already decided that due to my health problems, I would give up USCF over the board play and concentrate on my postal/correspondence chess where I was much better.
I decided to play in the 2nd Tornado in Kankakee, my home town. Again, I scored 4 straight wins. [4-0]. So now, after gaining my 2188 USCF rating, I had scored 8 straight wins.
I waited for my Chess Life the next month but it did not show my new rating. Waited a 2nd month, and again it showed my rating as 2188. I was getting concerned.
3rd month and the magazine showed my rating as 2188. It took 3 or 4 weeks but I finally found the tournament director. I called him on the phone.
He explained to me that not only was he the tournament director of the 2 Tornados but he had also played in the two Tornados and did rather poorly.
So, He Never Sent In The Results Of The Two Tournaments To Be Rated!
So, my last reccorded game was with Steve Tennant former Illinois Champion and it was a draw. [story behind that game]
ponz111 wrote:
chessmaster102 wrote:
ponz111 wrote:
I cannot match Trefler's performaance but the last year I played over-the-board USCF chess I played 16 tournament games with a final result of 13 wins, 2 draws, and 1 loss. along the way I played 5 players in a row of master/grandmaster rating.
A USCF performance rating of approximately 2438.
After, 1973 [due to health reasons] I never played another USCF over-the-board game.
And some of my games are available to view.
What was your rating back then ?
My USCF rating has been the same for more than 40 years and that is 2188.
I played in the US Open in Chicago in 1973 and my very last game I got credit for was a draw with former Illinois Champion Steve Tennant. This was the 8th round and I had to withdraw from the US Open due to illness.
After that game my USCF rating was 2188 but I heard there was a USCF 4 round "Tornado" tournament in my home town of Kankakee Illinois. I played in that tournament and won the tournament with 4 straight wins [4-0].
Then I knew I had enough to make USCF master.
But then there was another tournament in Kankakee, another 4 round tornado. Should I play in it and risk my master rating? I had already decided that due to my health problems, I would give up USCF over the board play and concentrate on my postal/correspondence chess where I was much better.
I decided to play in the 2nd Tornado in Kankakee, my home town. Again, I scored 4 straight wins. [4-0]. So now, after gaining my 2188 USCF rating, I had scored 8 straight wins.
I waited for my Chess Life the next month but it did not show my new rating. Waited a 2nd month, and again it showed my rating as 2188. I was getting concerned.
3rd month and the magazine showed my rating as 2188. It took 3 or 4 weeks but I finally found the tournament director. I called him on the phone.
He explained to me that not only was he the tournament director of the 2 Tornados but he had also played in the two Tornados and did rather poorly.
So, He Never Sent In The Results Of The Two Tournaments To Be Rated!
So, my last reccorded game was with Steve Tennant former Illinois Champion and it was a draw. [story behind that game]
why did u forward a werewolf as part of the thread? am i missing something?
Any notable amateurs out there who have done above the norm performances for a player of amateur status ? By amateur I'm referring to players rated below 2200 and never crossed 2200 when they achieved their incredible performance