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guess-the-photo wrote:

These comments are tipically made by people who never played in FIDE online Arena. 

They are strong players in there, I have to say.

Regarding money.  The fees of FIDE Arena are cheaper than chess.com

ask @lasagnalt then

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Those Arena titles are obviously a joke. What's the point of a title if everyone can get one? If FIDE really wanted to introduce official online titles, the requirements should correspond somehow with the OTB titles.

 

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This is a falacy. In chess.com everybody can get a certain level of ELO because the starting ELO is invented by the user. That cannot happen in FIDE arena, where a simple 1100 rated player is stronger than the most part from here.

And remember those are  official FIDE titles.

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I don't know how strong the pool is compared to other servers, but I doubt that for example 1100 - the requirement for ACM - translates to master strength. FIDE obviously put the bar so low in order to lure more people to their site.

Also, even if you can start out with an overrated initial rating here, it will plummet after a few games anyway...

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I guess FIDE arena is a great unknown by the medium chess and low chess players. But it is  a humble bath indeed (by own experience) believing that you are a 1800 ELO rated in chess.com and in FIDE arena you cannot be better than 900...

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guess-the-photo wrote:

This is a falacy. In chess.com everybody can get a certain level of ELO because the starting ELO is invented by the user. That cannot happen in FIDE arena, where a simple 1100 rated player is stronger than the most part from here.

And remember those are  official FIDE titles.

 

The starting rating here, will quickly change after just a few games, so that initial rating doesn't mean much in the long term.

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I think not.  

I have experience in both platforms and FIDE arena is serious and terribly difficult, specially for medium and low rated players.

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There is no set otb equivalent… it would be like saying that all 2000s online are X uscf …

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playonlinesecretly1 escribió:
ninjaswat wrote:
playonlinesecretly1 wrote:

I mean how strong if AGM plays over the board.

AGM does not have an otb requirement. Theoretically, you could get AGM without playing over the board at all, and without having a rating.

 

(Assuming my information is correct)

I mean what level of play an AGM has. 1900/2000/2100  otb fide. Or same as 2500 real otb GM strength.

 

 

That´s what I told you. Almost the same level online and over the board. FIDE arena got no inflation. I give you an example.  Take a look this chess player: https://chessarena.com/profile/243989 In rapid chess, he has  2433 over the board and  2412  at Online Arena.  He played in both sides and his ELO is similar. Sometimes, you find an Arena GM with 2000 online and 1900 over the board, but the inflation if existed it is always very short.  Because this online platform is hard. And I think people must know this fact or at least play in there to test it.

And yes, in ONline Arena you can get a rating (even if you have none over the board) but this rating is official and your title too. And you can use it over the board .
 

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That's one guy. How about this "AGM"? https://chessarena.com/profile/500897

OTB-ELO: 1600 ... Online Blitz: 2100

But even if Arena ratings were similar to FIDE OTB ratings (which I doubt), how is an AIM (1700)  comparable to a real IM (2400)?

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And these titles are recognised in FIDE official tournaments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2wv3hb1S8c

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Register in FIDE arena and play some games before buying a membership, and you will see it is not easy. But if you want my opinion you have few possibilities right now to achieve AIM or AGM. I have watched some of your games  and your openings are terrible.

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I'm AFM with an OTB FIDE Standard ELO of 1650 usually the next relation is more or less true:

ACM --> 1400-1500 OTB

AFM --> 1500-1700 OTB

AIM --> 1700-1900 OTB

AGM --> 1900-2100 OTB

 

Of coures Arena titles are not a profesional titles are titles for those, like me, that will never have an OTB tittle, but at least for me ACM and AFM has been a real challenge and help me to improve my game with an objective and, in the past, i was pretty much pround of it. It is not easy, at least for me, to have 150 games played above a certain challengin ELO.

If that title motivates you @playonlinesecretly1 go ahead and enjoy!

It will be a nice journey.

 

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yeah

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I agree with you.

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pep1r escribió:

I'm AFM with an OTB FIDE Standard ELO of 1650 usually the next relation is more or less true:

ACM --> 1400-1500 OTB

AFM --> 1500-1700 OTB

AIM --> 1700-1900 OTB

AGM --> 1900-2100 OTB

 

Of coures Arena titles are not a profesional titles are titles for those, like me, that will never have an OTB tittle, but at least for me ACM and AFM has been a real challenge and help me to improve my game with an objective and, in the past, i was pretty much pround of it. It is not easy, at least for me, to have 150 games played above a certain challengin ELO.

If that title motivates you @playonlinesecretly1 go ahead and enjoy!

It will be a nice journey.

 

Explain to this people how hard is FIDE online arena, in some cases even worse than over the board.

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I mean to a certain extent that makes sense