bad etiquette to force a draw by repetition?

here's the basic skeleton of a cheeky draw I found the other day, when I was down the exchange and  a pawn for no compensation. My opponent said after two repetitions " draw? lol" to which I said, " sorry, I'm losing" to which he graciously replied "don't worry. Your draw was better than my whole game."

A draw is better than a loss if your opponent doesn't like it tough.

If your up in a game and someone pulls this on you it's sore, however it is well within the rules and serves as a lesson to avoid it should you get caught with it. 

Are you sure your a rookie? 

i don't agree.

i had some chances to take a draw by repetition when i was behind in position/pieces and i didn't take it. i just can't see the honour in pulling a draw like that. i've had some repetition draws pulled at me while i was ahaid...and i found it a lame tactic tbh.

if you have ruined your chances for a win becouse you made blunders or your opponent is simply better, then imho you just accept that and try to win and/or reduce the damage by trying to make up for your mistakes.....but don't force anyone in a draw that really isn't one (if you're honest).

i never have and never will try to take points this way. even tho if grandmasters have drawn this way (like someone said), i just consider it (indeed) bad etiquette.

So basicly, if I screw up, it´s okey for my opponent to use that against me, and try to win the battle. However, if my opponent in return screws up, and it's a draw, It´s not okey for me to use that against him?

I´ll not take the draw when you agree that I really should have my queen back, it's bad etiquette to take her anyway.

My experiences in OTB tournaments a position that one thinks is a possible win can turn into a draw. Also, a obvious drawn game can turn into a loss. When a draw is offered I think it should be accepted. In positions where repetitions are made and neither player is willing to make a different move which would leave either at a disadvantage. Therefore, a draw is the best solution. Regardless of the material left on the board. This happens often.

For the guys that think forcing a draw by repetition is dishonorable or lame -

It's quite simple.  A draw by repetition is kept to a certain number of repetitive moves only because, conceptually, the game would continue along the same path to infinity.  In a game of chess - a strategic, tactical, and elegant battle - a draw by repetition, a game in which both players would rather repeat the same moves than consider defeat, is arguably the most honorable way to end a game (regardless of if you are on the "losing" side).

If you are writing this with a long curly quill pen then go ahead and be a gentleman of yore and refuse "dishonorable draws."

Otherwise just play like everyone else, as mundane as that may seem to you.

I remember once worrying that this was bad etiquette, way back in grade nine in one of my first tournaments. (Man, I miss those days. Haven't been to an OTB tournament since I graduated high school like 12 years ago.) My opponent told me that, too, that it wasn't the proper way to do things. In actuality he was just convincing me not to do it so he could win, and I fell for it. Felt foolish after I realized.

Sometimes players will deliberately sac material if they know that they have a perpetual check they can fall back on, as Tal did here against Fischer.

You did nothing wrong, your higher rated opponent was just bitter that he couldnt put you away.

Etiquette in this situation suggests you either push him off his chair or poke him in the eye (not both).

 I see what you mean.  I feel the same way about the clock.  I wasn't introduced to Chess with clocks so the idea of losing on time with the better position to me seems redundant.  As for 3 fold repetition, it's not nice but I'd do it in a heartbeat if I know I'm going to lose.  Honour?  Who cares? 

All in the rules of the game! It takes two to tango.

You were perfectly right and what your opponet did was bad etiquette. Draw by repetition is standard rule in chess and it is his error that he allowed this to happen

Here is an example of a game vs a higher rated player than myself, where though material was about even, I had somewhat overextended myself and had a terrible defensive position.

HOWEVER - what I did notice was that my aggressive tactics were not in vain: I had good attacking chances, that at the very least granted the game's salvation. I don't like playing for a draw, and as white - it's rediculous; but sometimes mistakes are made, and a game must be saved, or where the game is against a higher rated player, it is far more acceptable as the following game illustrates:

tarius78:

You are three pawns up, why aren't you trying to win? c3 (or c4... not sure, just had a quick glance) followed by Kc2 and eventually you untangle with a winning position. Or am I missing something?

Edit: d3 is also worthy of consideration.

I completely agree with this post here. A few months ago I had a won position in a tournament, but I allowed the draw by rep. Once I realized I couldn't escape, (One move into it), I went ahead and offered the draw, albeit reluctantly. I could have drawn my moves out and been a complete jerk, but offering the draw was just the right thing to do for the game.

In OTB play one has to be careful about offering draws in repetition situations. Sometimes players will repeat just to increase their chances of making the time control. If the opponent receives a draw offer from you, which he declines and varies his moves then the balance of the phycological battle has shifted in his favour.

I think delivering checkmate leads to more bad blood than forcing a draw by repetition.  Should be avoided at all costs.