Bishop or Knight?

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knights are OK i think 3 1/2 bishops 3 knights

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MISTER_McCHESS wrote:

knights are the most elegant piece in chess, both in movement and looks

Yes!!!

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In chess.com lessons, they say bishop is better than knights because it can trap the knight, but they don't say knights can trap bishops too (it happened with me)

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yes!!!

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Knights are better, unless you have two bishops.

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DonRajesh wrote:

Knights are better, unless you have two bishops.

bishops are better!

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knights are tricky so knights

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alirockstar wrote:

knights are tricky so knights

Don't underestimate the power of the bishop.

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i dont know how many more time i'll see this is asked.

All pieces have set values at their initial positions, 'before' they move. but their value changes as they move and as the board changes.

A knight which is helping a checkmate has more value than a bishop which is sitting there and doing nothing. And the opposite can be true.

A pawn means 1 point but what if it has one move away being promoted and there is nothing to stop it? is it still worth one point?

Position defines pieces' values. But as a 'general' approach, knights are more valuable in the beginning phase of the game.. where there are more pawns 'are supposed' to be on the board (assumption). And bishops are gaining more value in middle and end games.. after some pawns are traded and pawn skeleton is formed. 

Bishops can travel long distances at once and knights can block passers and attack their protecting pawns simutaneously and can fork dangerous pieces and still can walk out of there unharmed.

to sum it up; they have different attributes but position itself dictates their values. so there is no bishop-is-better-than-knight or the vice versa.

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Knights are my favorite for sure. Their combo with the queen is unmatched and they can hit squares that the queen can't. While bishops efficiency are dependent on pawn structures, the knight can maneuver closed positions. Also, forks for days.

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bishops

 

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what? your trying to say bishops are better

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bishops are that bit better overall, so they should be like 3.2 and knights 3, but as Paris Hilton would say “it depends on the position”.

in truth, piece values are dynamic, changing from moment to moment, would a pawn on the 7th rank that is well protected realistically be valued at one point ?

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Knights are better in closed positions, and bishops are better in open positions. But if you are playing a game who is bad at chess, then a knight should be better, since even my queen got forked by the knight! (P.S. bishops are good at skewers.)
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and some guys play better with knights so those knights would be worth more thumbup.png

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Levent_Acemi wrote:
Infidel_Catto yazdı:

bishops are that bit better overall, so they should be like 3.2 and knights 3, but as Paris Hilton would say “it depends on the position”.

in truth, piece values are dynamic, changing from moment to moment, would a pawn on the 7th rank that is well protected realistically be valued at one point ?

Sometimes a knight is worth 15 points, while a bishop at same position would worth 0 points. So you are right.

very good point!

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gdzen wrote:

i dont know how many more time i'll see this is asked.

All pieces have set values at their initial positions, 'before' they move. but their value changes as they move and as the board changes.

A knight which is helping a checkmate has more value than a bishop which is sitting there and doing nothing. And the opposite can be true.

A pawn means 1 point but what if it has one move away being promoted and there is nothing to stop it? is it still worth one point?

Position defines pieces' values. But as a 'general' approach, knights are more valuable in the beginning phase of the game.. where there are more pawns 'are supposed' to be on the board (assumption). And bishops are gaining more value in middle and end games.. after some pawns are traded and pawn skeleton is formed. 

Bishops can travel long distances at once and knights can block passers and attack their protecting pawns simutaneously and can fork dangerous pieces and still can walk out of there unharmed.

to sum it up; they have different attributes but position itself dictates their values. so there is no bishop-is-better-than-knight or the vice versa.

wow, completely shut down the discussion! Well said tongue.png