You're just trolling now, Batgirl.
The original poster said: "So far as I see, chess is a game that need careful thinking and careful thinking takes time. Moving pieces just to see who can move faster is kind of childish, this make chess ugly."
My translation of that was fair and accurately represented his point. Do you want a cookie too? Joey took the chocolate chip, so we just have oatmeal left. Is that Ok? We have some milk left too if you'd like that as well.
I've learned stuff from Batgirl too and agree she is intelligent, though I fail to see how you're qualified to judge anyone's intelligence vs. someone else's on here. But no matter.
My issue with Batgirl is relevant to her post in this thread and this thread alone (stop chewing with your mouth opeh, Joey!)
Batgirl wrongly said that I misinterpreted/distorted the intent of the original poster when all I did is state what he was stating in different words. So that's that.
But this really is consuming far too much time, I think, for everyone. While it's been a lot of fun, I really do believe this will be my final post. In fact, to ensure that, I'm not even going to read any future posts because the discussion has gotten so far off topic and I think debate on the original point of this topic has been exhausted. We've all made our points and are now just repeating them.
Take it easy. lol (that one was for you, Joey - smile, not laugh out loud!)
The point under contention is whether chess as it was meant to be played - with careful consideration, deep thought and an attempt to find the best possible move in every given position - is possible in bullet and blitz.
The answer is, it's not.
As it was meant to be played ? Can you point me to the creator and date upon which Chess and how it was meant to be played please.
I am pretty sure its origins cannot be pinpointed, it has changed over the years including the rules and piece values and their respective power and so "how it was meant to be played" is not something we can really say with any factual certainty.
I know the OP is over a year old. But drawing a line at 2200 because those below it can't play fast chess is a bold statement from someone who, e.g. couln't tell the difference between an 1800 and a 2200 in the first place.
But yeah, it's somewhere inbetween what you said. It's not totally random speed moves, and no matter the rating it's not great chess either. But you can't bar people from playing not great chess because then no one would get to play 
It would be fun to design a mechanical bulletchess clock using two sand hourglasses (what are those called, those sand clepsydra things?).
a clepsydra ;-)
or did you mean the common term such as egg timer ? (although alot of them will overcook your eggs if they last longer than 3 minutes...LOL..or sand clock or sand timer
Bullet chess with sand timers? That would be awesome.
Bullet chess with sand timers? That would be awesome.
I prefer staunton pieces myself ;-)
You can use Staunon men wiht a sand clock and play bullet if you want... though I'd recommend using quicksand.
I think that your suggestion is really stupid people who post after me will probably say the same thing, say I when you post to agree with me
I think that your suggestion is really stupid people who post after me will probably say the same thing, say I when you post to agree with me
can you please repeat that in a way I can understand?
hahaha guys i only ment that blitz and bullet chess can be a little stupid but you can't restrict people from it
hahaha guys i only ment that blitz and bullet chess can be a little stupid but you can't restrict people from it
agreed!
and thanks for the googlespeak, joeydvivre
Bullet can be a little ridiculous since alot of people make their move before their opponent even does. I do get a kick out of how people that play blitz or bullet love to pat themselves on the back for being such fast thinkers. Or how they criticize people that like to play the longer game because its all about memorizing openings.
There is no difference in generally remembering the first 10 or so moves of a certain opening for long play and remembering the 10 or so trap openings that you use in blitz. If you hit midgame all that is left of the opening is possibly some basic strategic principal which you could likely pick up by just looking at the board anyways.
I'm not saying blitz or rapid (technically even the longest live matches here are rapids) aren't valid ways of playing. I just personally find more enjoyment in looking deeper into a postion and seeing if it has any surprises for me.
And about the database thing I really don't care if the person I am playing is using one. I kind of don't think most of the people i play here are. It is actually possible to know almost nothing about a opening and stay largely on book. One of the first times I played Sicilian since I came back from like 20 years of not playing I did Najdorf up until like move 15 and I had never heard of it. I did look it up after though to see what White had done to me lol.
Blitz and bullet is skill... And why shouldnt this be chess? Maybe bullet is about time and blunders but in the most blitz games no one is just giving up material for nothing. Its more about having fun, play as much games as possible, train tactical skills and make use of your basic chess intuition.
I'm a good player; play me in a ten minute game and you'll fight hard to beat me...thats how i grew up, chess was a way to expand your mind with deep thinking...forcing me to play against the clock is still unusual but i understand that persons who play it do so to not be tied up to their computer for a long period of time. I have nothing against bullet or blitz games, but anything under 5 minutes does not give a true test of what a player is capable of and I cannot appreciate games that drag on for hours. However, each format has its own following and increases the interest in chess... so, to each his own.
Anything under 5 minutes is total garbage.
However, a true test of skill is 2 hours per player or longer!
Also, get out of the house and go face players in person! Over the Board! That's the REAL way to become a good chess player!
The only people that should rely on their stupid artificial intelligence are poker players that can't keep a straight face and need the computer screen to conceal their Quads (pocket ducks) when the board shows 2c 2d 7d Qc Kd.
Joey Chestnuts said: I got $10K says you are lying.
Whoa...don't try to sell Joey the Brooklyn Bridge! He's sharp as a marble! Actually figured out I might not be the head of the psychology department at the most prestigious university in the world!
Good for you, Joey. You can have that cookie after all. But you still need to see the tutor. Your detection that I am not the head of the psychology department at the most prestigious university in the world wasn't the jaw-dropping piece of deduction you thought it was. But, like I said, you can still have that cookie? Chocolate chip or oatmeal for you, Joey? We have both