kleelof

Aug 8, 2014

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#101

Tactics aren't calculations?

TitanCG

Aug 8, 2014

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#102

kleelof wrote:

Tactics aren't calculations?

Well yeah you always have to calculate but I think when you see the pieces moving you don't look as far as you would if you didn't move them. So you get the same kind of training you might get with shorter tactics puzzles.

But if you don't move the pieces you end up calculating farther ahead and I think this is better for improving at that.

There's some nice stuff here:

http://youtu.be/vvPcVwrZ4nI (1:29:59) Melborne Chess Club

http://youtu.be/tySL8qEVwhU (40:28) St. Louis Chess Club

kleelof

Aug 8, 2014

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#103

I see what you are saying. But this sorta assumes that you are always moving the pieces and not visualizing.

I can't speak for other CC players, but I begin down a line of moves in my mind before I start moving anything. Moving the pieces are only to verify ideas. It does often reveal errors, but that is a + not a - as it teaches you to be aware of these errors. During a live game, you don't have time to consume and process these errors as you have to move forward in the game.

Regardless, and I know you were not the one to say this, but saying that CC chess criples or weakens your visualization skills is in accurate. It may not do as much to exercise them as live chess does, but there are many other things that are just as important to learn that CC is perfect for.

Anyway, one of the great things about chess; there are many different ways to learn and improve.

Chesscoaching

Aug 8, 2014

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#104

Bullet and blitz are more common just because people can play more games in the same span of time. The game quality is garbage compared to long games.

Till_98

Aug 9, 2014

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#105

Haffelpeff

kleelof

Aug 9, 2014

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#106

Hassenpfeffer

Benzodiazepine

Aug 9, 2014

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#107

"blitz/bullet rating is the only thing that matters in internet chess"

I agree. Wholeheartedly.

shell_knight

Aug 9, 2014

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#108

Fiveofswords wrote:

LuftWaffles wrote:

Are you ok there, Fiveofswords? Sounding a little depressed.

I get it though, if you detach yourself from all context and subjectivity and observe the universe from a totally objective point of view, nothing matters. The whole universe might as well not be there.

But even so, it could be argued you decided it was better to post that, than to not post it. Right?

yes i decided to post that. But what i decide means nothing. What i think is better means nothing. I might as well be a billiard ball in this cosmic dance that is fooled into thinking that it bounced off a wall because it wanted to. The only time my thoughts feel relevant at all is when i laugh at this game called relevance and long for the escape of nonexistence.

Its not depression. Depression requires that i care. The hindu and buddhists sought escape from samsara and you probably dont think thats motivated by depression, do you? honesty that isnt pink and fuzzy and feelgood is so taboo in this culture. Its comical. What are you so afraid of.

For someone who doesn't care and talks about some elemental meaninglessness of existence you come off as someone with a lot of baggage.

lenslens1

Aug 9, 2014

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#109

I used to be good at slow games and better at CC. I hated blitz because of the imperfections. I moved house and walked into the newly local chess club one evening and they were having their annual club championship which was a move every 10 seconds on the buzzer tournament. They asked me to play and I felt obliged to play, try, and had some luck and won it! They gave me the club trophy.

Mapping that onto online chess, I would have a poor rating at 5 minutes or less because my heart would not be in it. Doesn't mean I am using an engine.

Till_98

Aug 9, 2014

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#110

puffpuff

shell_knight

Aug 9, 2014

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#111

Till_98 wrote:

puffpuff

Exactly.

colinsaul

Aug 9, 2014

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#112

Are people who only play blitz and bullet up to the challenge of chess with longer time controls where we can see what they are doing better?

shell_knight

Aug 9, 2014

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#113

colinsaul wrote:

Are people who only play blitz and bullet up to the challenge of chess with longer time controls where we can see what they are doing better?

You could just as easily ask if the people who only play tournament chess up to the challenge of speed chess where we can see what they are doing better.

If you never play a time control you're not going to be as good at it.

RNTRYTKUAYLKJHGGFDFE

Aug 9, 2014

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#114

RNTRYTKUAYLKJHGGFDFE

yureesystem

Aug 12, 2014

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#115

#1

Kasporov_Jr wrote:

I'm tired of people bragging about having '' high '' correspondence chess ratings, yet see thier blitz rating be a measily 1200. Having a 1800+ bullet/blitz rating is more respectable than being a 2000 in Correspondence chess

I'm rating 1850 uscf rating in chess, and my bullet/blitz rating accurately describes it. Correspondence chess is extremely unrealistically long, what tournament in the world will you have more than 2 weeks for a game? If your good at chess, the moves will come to you quick, you dont need 24 hours to analyze.

and it's so easy to cheat in correspodence chess every once in a while, you can look at a chess engince for a couple of moves & it will go unnoticed. But you dont have time to fool around with blitz/bullet.

I disagree, blitz you can be disconncted, lose on a won position, just because your opponent can move the mouse quicker and the quality of blitz game under otb expert and otb master is poor. A otb player should worry about his skills getting sloppy by blitz games, I see a lot poor quality blitz game under expert and master level.

At least in correspondence chess you can think on your move and not worry to lose in a won position because of time, I personally move fast anyway, I take about a minute or two to make my moves and complicated position I take longer, rarely take thirty minutes to make my move in CC. I am more concern with quality than to move fast.

Here example of what I mean, your game with Jayjude, his blitz rating is 2011 and he played poorly not expert level.

I don't know if you see this move 8...Nxg4!, but my bet is you did not.

yureesystem

Aug 12, 2014

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#116

In correspondence games I noticed much better opening play and no stupid and off-beat opening because your opponent trying to beat you on time. Bullet chess has to be really bad for any player under expert strength, I see player just blunder pieces or even get mate in one move because they did not see it. How can this be quality chess?

kleelof

Aug 12, 2014

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#117

It's not quality. However, if you use it as a tool to improve your overall playing, then it is useful.

I play mostly Online Chess. But I also play a little blitz to exercise some basics like not hanging pieces and tactical calculations.

Jadulla

Aug 12, 2014

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#118

Blitz is way to intense for me. If I want adrenaline rush and sweaty armpits I'd rather play a round of Battlefield or something

Jadulla

Aug 12, 2014

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#119

yureesystem wrote:

In correspondence games I noticed much better opening play and no stupid and off-beat opening because your opponent trying to beat you on time. Bullet chess has to be really bad for any player under expert strength, I see player just blunder pieces or even get mate in one move because they did not see it. How can this be quality chess?

Indeed. Opening explorer is truly a great tool for learning openings

yureesystem

Aug 12, 2014

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#120

#152

kleelof wrote:

It's not quality. However, if you use it as a tool to improve your overall playing, then it is useful.

I play mostly Online Chess. But I also play a little blitz to exercise some basics like not hanging pieces and tactical calculations

When do play blitz it is just for fun, not a gage on my otb rating of 2011 USCF. Player think it is life or death and they playing for the world champion and some players think it is a real otb rating "online blitz rating", but it is not.