Blunder vs. Sacrifice

EmilyW2020

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

chessplayground

yes, a sacrifice is when it is quite obvious that your opponent gave away the piece, and a blunder is when you mistakenly just lose a piece due to a mistake in calculation or just not seeing the whole board

EmilyW2020
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

 

A blunder is when you lose. A sacrifice is when you win.

When you just sac a piece your opponent doesn't know. 

chessplayground

yes thats the point of a sacrifice your opponent doesn't know if its a genuine mistake or just a trap

blueemu

Some of my dumb blunders have turned out to be clever sacrifices.

Some of my clever sacrifices have turned out to be dumb blunders.

chessplayground
blueemu wrote:

Some of my dumb blunders have turned out to be clever sacrifices.

Some of my clever sacrifices have turned out to be dumb blunders.

i agree with that last one lol

aMazeMove

and some of you wins turned out to be losses

benjaminy8

so relatable...

benjaminy8
EmilyW2020 wrote:
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

 

A blunder is when you lose. A sacrifice is when you win.

When you just sac a piece your opponent doesn't know. 

I have never done a sacrifice, just blunders...

benjaminy8

only the bravest can sacrifice a queenwq.pngbq.png

Vincidroid

I always rely on cheapos. Whether  It's a blunder or a sacrifice, it totally depends on my opponent. 

nklristic

If you've blundered a piece, act as if it was a sacrifice. If you've sacrificed a piece act as if you've blundered it. tongue.png

I wonder if I've just invented a proverb.

nklristic

happy.png Thanks Igor. 

jetoba
blueemu wrote:

Some of my dumb blunders have turned out to be clever sacrifices.

Some of my clever sacrifices have turned out to be dumb blunders.

I had a memorable clever positional sacrifice (Q for R+P) that was a dumb blunder (it needed two preparatory moves to work) and ended up being a clever sacrifice (the opponent thought it was a king attack and made two defensive moves that allowed my prep moves to be made and eventually forcing him to give up Q+P for a R (final tally - two pawns won).  In another game I blundered an exchange for a center pawn an pressed hard with my center pawns, eventually twice winning a piece for a center pawn (final tally giving up R+P for B+B+N).

 

If you've made a blunder that loses material look for the continuation that gives the best chance for turning the blunder into a viable sacrifice.  That may not involve playing the technically correct "best moves" because those moves simply slow the deterioration of the position.  A swindle (which looks like yet another blunder from a player who already blundered) may often be the best chance to get back into the game.

amazingchess1836
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

 

A blunder is when you lose. A sacrifice is when you win.

Not really, I mean that blunders don't mean you lose, you just lose a piece and you have a bad positon. A sacrifice is when you "blunder" a piece and than get a winning position.

benjaminy8

who cares

EmilyW2020
amazingchess1836 wrote:
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

 

A blunder is when you lose. A sacrifice is when you win.

Not really, I mean that blunders don't mean you lose, you just lose a piece and you have a bad position. A sacrifice is when you "blunder" a piece and than get a winning position.

When it's your turn and your opponent blundered/sacked you can't really be sure to take the piece or not 

blueemu

Here's an over-the-board tournament game in which I made a horrible blunder, that turned out to be a clever Pawn sacrifice!

 

 

blueemu
Epiloque wrote:

wow that is a great game.

Based on a total oversight, though!

If you liked that game, try this one:

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

jetoba
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:
amazingchess1836 wrote:
Epiloque wrote:
EmilyW2020 wrote:

It is hard to tell a blunder from a sacrifice unless you see what your opponent sees. 

 

A blunder is when you lose. A sacrifice is when you win.

Not really, I mean that blunders don't mean you lose, you just lose a piece and you have a bad position. A sacrifice is when you "blunder" a piece and than get a winning position.

When it's your turn and your opponent blundered/sacked you can't really be sure to take the piece or not 

So, it is complicated to tell, but you can do it.

After Qxd6 black has to play Bb2 before playing f3 (an immediate f3 allows Qxf8#).  Other than that typo oversight it is a good example.