Some endgames are very tactical but I think you meant technical endgames, sure but I am not advocating endgame study for an 1100 rated player, its all these other whackjobs.
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Some endgames are very tactical but I think you meant technical endgames, sure but I am not advocating endgame study for an 1100 rated player, its all these other whackjobs.
Well many masters are advocating endgame study for beginner and that includes Capablanca. Endgame study can also improve your calculation cause there are endgames that you need to calculate many variations. An example of these are king pawn endgames and rook endgames. Even a simple opposition rule in king pawn endgames will have some calculations and the bonus is not only your calculation will improve, you will also learn this endgame.
Learning the basic opposition rule in king and pawn endgames, queen against a pawn queening, bishop opposite color with a rook pawn draw, knight vs bishop with pawn endgames and outside passed pawn in endgames won't take much of your time learning. Put your rook behind a passed pawn. What is so complicated about that? It is a usefull knowledge to have and won't harm a beginner knowing this.
Studying engames is beneficial. But of course never neglect tactical improvement.

Sure they do and as has been pointed out this is where it fails because GM instruction is sub optimal for class level players. They were generally all masters from their youth, they have never had to make rapid chess improvement.
Its advice for an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces. If you think learning king and pawn is going to help him then fine, personally I think he would be much better off learning how to avoid dropping pieces, how to develop harmoniously, the importance of the centre etc etc If I was going to advocate any type of endgame for an 1100 rated player it would be major piece mates Q+K v K , R+K v K etc and minor piece mates B+N mate, B+B mate as at least these teach piece co ordination.
Sure they do and as has been pointed out this is where it fails because GM instruction is sub optimal for class level players. They were generally all masters from their youth, they have never had to make rapid chess improvement. Its advice for an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces. If you think learning king and pawn is going to help him then fine, personally I think he would be much better of learning how to avoid dropping pieces. If I was going to advocate any type of endgame it would be major piece mates Q+K v K , R+K v K etc and minor piece mate B+N mate, B+B mate as at least these teach piece co ordination.
As i told learning not to drop pieces is a separate study. Endgame study is a separate thing. Of course beginner should learn first how to mate with king and rook against a lone king, two rooks against a lone king and queen and king against a lone king. Once he learn it, it is time for king and pawn endgames and other basic endgame knowledge. Learning the basic endgames like the basic king and pawn endgames won't take much of your time and once you learn it, you won't forget it. It can be learn in as few as 1 hour. Learning these basic endgames can also improve your calculating ability. What is so complicated about place your rooks behind passed pawn? It is a usefull thing for a beginner to remember.
Actually Silman's Complete Endgame Course is beginner friendly as he explained well the concepts in his book. It is not surprising that it has many positive reviews as it is really well written for various level.
I know a a master who teaches chess at scholastic level. This is his method. Study endgames and tactics. He has many students that are doing well. Many masters advice that a beginner should study endgames.

Its advice for an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces. If you think learning king and pawn is going to help him then fine, personally I think he would be much better off learning how to avoid dropping pieces, how to develop harmoniously, the importance of the centre etc etc If I was going to advocate any type of endgame for an 1100 rated player it would be major piece mates Q+K v K , R+K v K etc and minor piece mates B+N mate, B+B mate as at least these teach piece co ordination.
Wow. After 140 posts of calling me a troll and disagreeing with everything I've said, you just suddenly reversed course and agreed with me on all of it. Are you a hypocrite or intentionally trolling?

Wow. After 140 posts of calling me a troll and disagreeing with everything I've said, you just suddenly reversed course and agreed with me on all of it. Are you a hypocrite or intentionally trolling?
You assume that the two are mutually exclusive. We are chess players, we should never assume ANYTHING. Have you got some advice to help an 1100 rated play let it be heard otherwise I would be pleased if you spared me your self righteous Puritan moralising and your logically challenged slobbery drool.

Actually Silman's Complete Endgame Course is beginner friendly as he explained well the concepts in his book. It is not surprising that it has many positive reviews as it is really well written for various level.
I know a a master who teaches chess at scholastic level. This is his method. Study endgames and tactics. He has many students that are doing well. Many masters advice that a beginner should study endgames.
the op asked for advice, if you have something of value to tell help him then let it be heard. I somehow doubt that studying king and pawns has much relevance to his plight. You are of course a free moral agent and may have a different perspective.
No one is disputing that tactics and endgame are different studies, the idea that studying Silmans endgame book will help the Op from dropping pieces, developing harmoniously is by any standards rather far fetched and i have really no idea why you and these other people are advocating it. Infact its not entirely clear how its going to help the OP in any tangible way or at least none that you have been able to explain.
rooks behind pawns, may gawd he is dropping pieces left right and centre, how is rooks behind pawns going to help him? wow.

The idea that an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces left, right and centre should study King and Pawn, Rook endgames etc in order to improve is hilarious. You guys just trollin right? Man that's laugh out loud funny.
The idea that an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces left, right and centre should study King and Pawn, Rook endgames etc in order to improve is hilarious. You guys just trollin right? Man that's laugh out loud funny.
You are selective. This is not trolling. So you will accused masters as trolling? You are accusing the respected legendary Capablanca as trolling? What is your credibility? I also addresses this dropping piece thing as it can be reduce by tactical study. He will improve by combining tactical study with endgame study. Studying endgame can also help reduce dropping piece as endgame also involves some calculation. With endgame knowlegede your pieces are at better position, so your chance to commit a blunder will be reduced. The better you calculate the more your dropping pieces will be reduced. And studying these basic endgames won't take much of his time. Imagine a beginner in rook endgame with passed pawns and he does not know where to place his rook. He will get frustrated and that can result to blunder. Now he might still lose becuase of blunder, but he has better chance of winning against a fellow beginner becuase his rook is at better position. Endgames also teaches coordination and is actually a good calculation and visualization training for beginner becuase there are only few pieces left. Not only your visualization and calculation will improve by studying endgame(also reduces blunders), you have endgame knowledge that you can use.

In my humble opinion - For beginners, learning to not drop pieces (tactics) is more important than endgame basics, BUT endgame basics are still important. In a chess game with two beginners, both will drop pieces. Typically, the one who drops fewer pieces will win. Often they won't even get to an endgame...BUT, sometimes they WILL get to an endgame. And the person who knows the endgame better will likely win.
View the various aspects of a chess game as links in a chain - The chain is only as good as its weakest link.

What is it about GM instruction being suboptimal for class players that you are having difficulty with? What is it about how is rook behind pawns going to help someone who is dropping pieces that yet evades you? Rooks behind pawns, stalemate, opposition, triangulation, king and pawns? The op is lost before he even reaches an endgame.
Ok there may be a case that studying dynamic endgame’s as it teaches visualisation and calculation and that its good to see the pieces in isolation or as I myself have mentioned certain endgame teach piece co-ordination but that simply comes under general tactics not the type of technical endgame that you seem to be advocating.

In my humble opinion - For beginners, learning to not drop pieces (tactics) is more important than endgame basics, BUT endgame basics are still important. In a chess game with two beginners, both will drop pieces. Typically, the one who drops fewer pieces will win. Often they won't even get to an endgame...BUT, sometimes they WILL get to an endgame. And the person who knows the endgame better will likely win.
View the various aspects of a chess game as links in a chain - The chain is only as good as its weakest link.
exactly, all they want is for the OP to study what they are studying, not what he actually needs. They are like coaches that teach you their opening repertoire because they know it, not because its actually good for you or suits your needs.
What is it about GM instruction being suboptimal for class players that you are having difficulty with? What is it about how is rook behind pawns going to help someone who is dropping pieces that yet evades you? Rooks behind pawns, stalemate, opposition, triangulation, king and pawns? The op is lost before he even reaches an endgame.
Ok there may be a case that studying dynamic endgame’s as it teaches visualisation and calculation and that its good to see the pieces in isolation or as I myself have mentioned certain endgame teach piece co-ordination but that simply comes under general tactics not the type of technical endgame that you seem to be advocating.
You are missing the point. Even these technical endgames requires calculation. So studying these technical endgames will improve your visualization and calculation. With better calculation and visualization, your chance of blundering lessens.Also having endgame knowledge will place your pieces at better position. If your pieces are at better place, your chance of blundering lessens. And what he needs is studying endgames and tactics. This is advocated by many masters and teachers.
Many beginner's matches also reaches endgames. Also studying these endgames won't take much of your time. There is no harm in studying them and will be beneficial. In tactical study, it is quality over quantity. You don't expect a beginner to solve tactics problems for 2 hours. That is counter productive as our brain can't learn many tactical patterns in one day.Look at your tactics. You have over 1200 try, but your tactical rating is just at 1600. There is no time wasted even if you study these basic endgames 30 minutes a day.
Also it seems you don't understand that king and pawn endgames are complicated and that even Kasparov misplayed it. In fact king and pawn endgames is one of the best tool at training for long calculation and visualzation. There is even a book about king and pawn endgames.
https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Pawn-Endings-Karsten-Muller/dp/1904600883
King and Pawn endgames are good to use at training for calculation and visualization for beginner becuase there are only few pieces left.

You people don't know where to get off with your endgame jive talk. You can mate with a King and pawn without visualization or calculating or evaluating a single thing. All you need to know is can white get in front of the pawn or can black prevent it. Is it a win or a draw. Technical endgames are the last thing the grinder needs! You chess trolls aught to be ashamed of yourselves.
NO calculation, no visualization, just technicality. Poor grinder has chanced upon a band of chess vagabonds!
You people don't know where to get off with your endgame jive talk. You can mate with a King and pawn without visualization or calculating or evaluating a single thing. All you need to know is can white get in front of the pawn or can black prevent it. Is it a win or a draw. Technical endgames are the last thing the grinder needs! You chess trolls aught to be ashamed of yourselves.
Don't be a retard. So these masters who are advocating endgame study for a beginner are trolls? Capablanca is a troll?And what is your credibility? Look at your tactical rating, it is only 1600 and you tried more than 1200 tactics at the trainer. I am not only talking about these king and a pawn where you need to get your king infront. Also there are king and pawn endgames in which before you arive at the meat of the position(king and single pawn against a king), you need to calculate some moves. Clearly you don't understand the complexity of king and pawn endgames. There is more to king and pawn endgames than a lone king and a single pawn against a king. There are many king and pawn endgame positions and can have long variations. Basic king and pawn endgame of knowing when 1 pawn and king against a lone king is a draw or win will only take 1 hour to learn. There is no harm at learning them. How long do you advocate a beginner spend studying at tactics. Saying learn to not drop pieces is to generalize. Usually beginners solve puzzles to improve at tactics and it will also lessen dropping pieces. But how long do you suggest to study tactics? You are not suggesting to study tactics for 4 hours do you? As i told look at your tactics rating, it is only 1600 and you have tried more than 1200 tactics problems at tactics trainer. How he will spend some of his free time? It can be spend studying endgames.
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Read his and try to assimilate it, repeated for the third time. GM instruction is often sub optimal at the class level. Your insistence that what world champions like Capablanca advocate is good for a 1100 rated player that drops pieces and gets mauled by move 12 fully deserves to be mocked. You are wired to da moon, a pure spangle, out there orbiting space waiting for someone like me to reel you in and bring you back to reality.
Study the endgame, study king and pawn, rook endgame’s maybe it will help you if you ever manage to reach an endgame. A truly hilarious piece of delusional thinking bordering on insanity, But Capablanca said so. Seriously. What's good for Capa must also be good for thegrinder. right? Wrong, Its absurd, ludicrous to think that it is.
read his and try to assimilate it, repeated for the third time. GM instruction is often sub optimal at the class level. Your insistence that what world champions like Capablanca advocate is good for a 1100 rated player that drops pices and gets mauled by move 12 fully deserves to be mocked. You are wired to da moon, a pure spangle, out there orbiting space waiting for someone like me to reel you in and bring you back to reality.
Don't be an idiot. I addresses this dropping pieces already and it can be lessen by studying tactics. Studying endgame is a separate matter and can also improve your ability to calculate and will lessen blunders.
There are good beginners endgame book. One of them is Winning Chess Endgame by Seirawan. Pandolfini's Endgame Course is another one. Silman's book is also a good one. These books are easy read and is beneficial and not sub optimal. Again look at your tactical rating it is only 1600 despite the fact that you tried solving more than 1200 problems here. Many masters advocated endgame for beginners and a scrub like you is telling it is sub optimal? How long do you propose to study tactics? 4 hours? Don't be ridiculos. Some free time can be spend at studying endgames.
You were asked which endgame principle would have helped our friend thegrinder to which you admitted, not a jot, no not a single iota would have helped him. Then we are left with the rather glaring and somewhat unsavoury question, then why are you advocating it? Stalemate????, he's getting mauled on move twelve for goodness sake!! its enough to make a man pull the back pocket right off his jeans in despair! But seeing that you ask,
page 22,
what is the best way of to learn about the benefits of castling? (a) learn a positional rule or (b), do ten tactical exercises in which a king in the centre of the board gets mated? - Rapid chess improvement, page 22, paragraph 2. - De La Maza
Tactical improvement is a separate study with endgame study.