I'm not a college student, I'm still in middle school.
you don't need to be worrying about college admissions right now
The reason I ask this is because if I need to start a new extracurricular, it would be now
In sixth grade playing chess is an extracurricular activity. Being on your school's chess team makes it more of an organized extracurricular activity. You can meld it with being a service activity if you also start assisting as a tournament director (arbiter is the term used in many other countries) and taking the TD tests to get higher certification levels points to being a serious extracurricular activity (and you may make a little bit of money instead of having an activity that costs money - just don't expect a lot because even top-level TDs that direct as a hobby may pull in less than $10,000 per year unless they opt to make it their primary job or opt to do little else on their weekends [less money if you are not at the top levels]). You can donate some of your weekends to help out in scholastic events and build up your community service appearance while also getting the experience and directing credits to getting certified at higher levels to show your dedication (and incidentally to start getting paid for your TD services).
If you want to be a TD then make sure you have access to a rulebook. Most players don't know all of the rules (I've had to explain them to 2400+ rated US masters and even to GMs) and I've found that many USChess 1800-2200 players misunderstand how a lot of rulings should go (I've used them as volunteer proctors at non-rated events with the instruction to come to me if they are not CERTAIN of a ruling and they've brought many cases to me where they were pretty confident but a tiny bit uncertain, just to be quite surprised when they discovered that they were totally off base). Find a TD willing to teach you (maybe one that does a good job running the tournaments you play in). At your age make sure a parent is there as well because the current stranger-danger/litigious-society means the parent is a safeguard both for you (against being taken advantage of) and for the TD you are working with (against erroneous accusations or suspicions).
The thing is, I don't exactly want to be a TD. That would mean a lot of dedication and memorizing. I would rather do something like coaching or actually win some major tournaments. My question is, would programming and chess be enough to get in a good college like Berekley (with really good academics)?
I'm not a college student, I'm still in middle school.
you don't need to be worrying about college admissions right now
The reason I ask this is because if I need to start a new extracurricular, it would be now
you should make decisions based on what you want out of life, rather than what you think a college admissions board might want 5 years from now. it's good to have plans for the future, but this is going overboard with things - i can absolutely promise you that undergraduate college admissions matters far, far less than you assume it does right now.
I'm not a college student, I'm still in middle school.
you don't need to be worrying about college admissions right now
The reason I ask this is because if I need to start a new extracurricular, it would be now
you should make decisions based on what you want out of life, rather than what you think a college admissions board might want 5 years from now. it's good to have plans for the future, but this is going overboard with things - i can absolutely promise you that undergraduate college admissions matters far, far less than you assume it does right now.
What is an undergraduate college admission?
What is an undergraduate college admission?
Undergrad is when you are going for your bachelor degree. Graduate school is when you are going for you Masters/Doctorate. If you are going to a good graduate school then the undergrad school is not as significant.
What is an undergraduate college admission?
Undergrad is when you are going for your bachelor degree. Graduate school is when you are going for you Masters/Doctorate. If you are going to a good graduate school then the undergrad school is not as significant.
So the bachelors degree can be anything, but the masters/doctorate is what you want to pursue, right?
Based on an evaluation of this thread, you will not ever -- and I mean ever -- be admitted into any of those places. Ce n’est pas la mer à boire.
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What is an undergraduate college admission?
Undergrad is when you are going for your bachelor degree. Graduate school is when you are going for you Masters/Doctorate. If you are going to a good graduate school then the undergrad school is not as significant.
So the bachelors degree can be anything, but the masters/doctorate is what you want to pursue, right?
The Masters/Doctorate is generally in the same field as the Bachelors or a related field, but not always. Decades ago a high school diploma was needed by many companies for any skilled work. Nowadays a Bachelors is the minimum for a lot of companies (depending on the job a certificate from a specialty program or school might be enough). Also, nowadays it is easy to check on the validity of a claimed degree and claiming one you don't have is the fastest way for the Human Resources Department to remove you from consideration for a job at its company.
If you don't have a Bachelors then you might be able to get an entry level position to gain the experience to start moving up the ladder but your career will move more slowly and you may reach a cap on how much a company will pay without a degree.
Based on an evaluation of this thread, you will not ever -- and I mean ever -- be admitted into any of those places. Ce n’est pas la mer à boire.
We are talking about somebody in sixth grade. There is a LOT of time for knowledge to be gained and no reason to expect that knowledge to have already been obtained. Expecting a sixth grader to have the savvy of a high school junior or senior is not particularly logical.
What is an undergraduate college admission?
Undergrad is when you are going for your bachelor degree. Graduate school is when you are going for you Masters/Doctorate. If you are going to a good graduate school then the undergrad school is not as significant.
So the bachelors degree can be anything, but the masters/doctorate is what you want to pursue, right?
The Masters/Doctorate is generally in the same field as the Bachelors or a related field, but not always. Decades ago a high school diploma was needed by many companies for any skilled work. Nowadays a Bachelors is the minimum for a lot of companies (depending on the job a certificate from a specialty program or school might be enough). Also, nowadays it is easy to check on the validity of a claimed degree and claiming one you don't have is the fastest way for the Human Resources Department to remove you from consideration for a job at its company.
If you don't have a Bachelors then you might be able to get an entry level position to gain the experience to start moving up the ladder but your career will move more slowly and you may reach a cap on how much a company will pay without a degree.
Based on an evaluation of this thread, you will not ever -- and I mean ever -- be admitted into any of those places. Ce n’est pas la mer à boire.
We are talking about somebody in sixth grade. There is a LOT of time for knowledge to be gained and no reason to expect that knowledge to have already been obtained. Expecting a sixth grader to have the savvy of a high school junior or senior is not particularly logical.
Ok, so my question is this: Lets say I graduate high school with perfect academics. I go to a good grad school and graduate from it and get my bachelors degree for computer science. Do I have to do that? Like, do I have to get a bachelors to go to a good university like berekly and get a masters there?
Ok, so my question is this: Lets say I graduate high school with perfect academics. I go to a good grad school and graduate from it and get my bachelors degree for computer science. Do I have to do that? Like, do I have to get a bachelors to go to a good university like berkley and get a masters there?
Good (not necessarily perfect) high school academics can help get you into a good college or university for your bachelors. After you have a bachelors you can go to a university for your masters (the bachelors is a pre-requisite). That university may or may not be the same place you received your bachelors. After your masters you can go to a university for your doctorate. Many people stop at a bachelors. If you have a degree you plan to stop at then try to get it from a college or university that is well regarded for that degree. A bachelors from an average college and a masters from a prestigious university is worth more than a bachelors from a prestigious university and a masters from an average university. (PS the difference between a college and university is that a college does not offer masters or doctorates while a university includes them in its offerings).
It is hard to say what the future requirements will be for jobs. As an example high school teachers used to have a better chance of getting hired if they had a masters. Then budgets tightened up and having a masters put you on a pay scale where you were as expensive as two new teachers that had just received their bachelors. At that point it was better to get a job with only a bachelors and wait until after you received tenure before going for you masters. In the private sector a masters or doctorate is usually preferable to a bachelors.
To clarify another point, after getting a high school diploma you can go to an undergrad school (college or university) to get a bachelors. Once you've received a bachelors then you can go to a grad school for a masters. At the college level an undergrad has not yet graduated with a bachelors while a grad student has.
Ok, so my question is this: Lets say I graduate high school with perfect academics. I go to a good grad school and graduate from it and get my bachelors degree for computer science. Do I have to do that? Like, do I have to get a bachelors to go to a good university like berekly and get a masters there?
good grades in high school are necessary for 'good' universities, but 'good universities' mean much less than people assume. good bachelor's degree grades help for getting into graduate school, but they're not everything.
the single most important thing with college (or grad school) is - and i wish i could stamp this directly onto your brain: "avoid student loans as much as you possibly can - debt is bad"
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Yes!! I did and I wrote an essay on it. Even jobs love hearing about your chess accomplishments and experience; it makes you stand out and honestly shows you're smart
Well it is the SAT, which is pretty easy. If you do the K-12 SAT, where is puts topics all the way up to 12th grade, it is much harder.
Ok, so my question is this: Lets say I graduate high school with perfect academics. I go to a good grad school and graduate from it and get my bachelors degree for computer science. Do I have to do that? Like, do I have to get a bachelors to go to a good university like berekly and get a masters there?
good grades in high school are necessary for 'good' universities, but 'good universities' mean much less than people assume. good bachelor's degree grades help for getting into graduate school, but they're not everything.
the single most important thing with college (or grad school) is - and i wish i could stamp this directly onto your brain: "avoid student loans as much as you possibly can - debt is bad"
Ok, then MIT is a trash school with 100k in loans lol. Why do universities even cost so much, I don't get it. Ok, so that means, if I grad with a bachelors out of a good school, it would be taken with consideration? So like, if two people had the exact same stats in everything, but one of them graduated and got their bachelors from an average school, and the other one got the bachelors from a really "good" university/college, would the one who got it from a really good university/college be more likely to be chosen for a good university to get their masters?
Ok, so my question is this: Lets say I graduate high school with perfect academics. I go to a good grad school and graduate from it and get my bachelors degree for computer science. Do I have to do that? Like, do I have to get a bachelors to go to a good university like berkley and get a masters there?
Good (not necessarily perfect) high school academics can help get you into a good college or university for your bachelors. After you have a bachelors you can go to a university for your masters (the bachelors is a pre-requisite). That university may or may not be the same place you received your bachelors. After your masters you can go to a university for your doctorate. Many people stop at a bachelors. If you have a degree you plan to stop at then try to get it from a college or university that is well regarded for that degree. A bachelors from an average college and a masters from a prestigious university is worth more than a bachelors from a prestigious university and a masters from an average university. (PS the difference between a college and university is that a college does not offer masters or doctorates while a university includes them in its offerings).
It is hard to say what the future requirements will be for jobs. As an example high school teachers used to have a better chance of getting hired if they had a masters. Then budgets tightened up and having a masters put you on a pay scale where you were as expensive as two new teachers that had just received their bachelors. At that point it was better to get a job with only a bachelors and wait until after you received tenure before going for you masters. In the private sector a masters or doctorate is usually preferable to a bachelors.
To clarify another point, after getting a high school diploma you can go to an undergrad school (college or university) to get a bachelors. Once you've received a bachelors then you can go to a grad school for a masters. At the college level an undergrad has not yet graduated with a bachelors while a grad student has.
I have a question: Do I need a bachelors to get a masters? Like, can I directly get a masters without a bachelors? Also, one more question: If I achieve a NM or FM title in the next six years, would it be a valid extracurricular, not just some hobby which someone might do every once in a while? Because, I don't really think they care about what hobbies you do for fun. I always thought they cared about the ones you have achieved something in. Would getting a NM or FM title be a good achievement? I'm not saying that is all I will get; I'm just making some achievement up.
I have a question: Do I need a bachelors to get a masters? Like, can I directly get a masters without a bachelors?
Theoretically it is possible but it requires showing relative experience and having strong postgrad applications. The odds for somebody just out of high school to go straight to a masters might be similar to a 5 foot 7 basketball player becoming an NBA star (last one played in the '80s and '90s). That said, I do know a person that took college credit courses while in high school and thus received a bachelors at 17 and masters at 19 (and is quite successful in his field). Accelerating the bachelors would be much more reasonable than thinking you can skip over it.
Yes!! I did and I wrote an essay on it. Even jobs love hearing about your chess accomplishments and experience; it makes you stand out and honestly shows you're smart
What accomplishments would be a healthy amount so that universities take it into consideration?
I'm not a college student, I'm still in middle school.
you don't need to be worrying about college admissions right now