Can you be a rubbish chess player and have a really high IQ?

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or vice versa?

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Yes, of course, both are possible: intelligent people bad at chess and strong chess players with below average intelligence.

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I don't know.

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I suggest you to watch anime videos. Words are not enough to describe of what you want to know. Even though you know everything, the metric itself is not reliable.

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Yes

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Chess is a game of Logic. A strong player may have low education but still good in logical reasoning.

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Hi IQ people that don't play much chess are rubbish at chess.

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tygxc wrote:

Yes, of course, both are possible: intelligent people bad at chess and strong chess players with below average intelligence.

This.

There is some degree of overlap between intelligence and chess... but it's only that: a degree of overlap.

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Chess is a matter of memorization, spatial awareness and problem solving. IQ can help but perseverance and training make a bigger difference.

Almost no one starts out late in life and becomes a GM. Even those with great IQs. Which tells us quite a bit about the relationship of chess and IQ.
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Yes. If a high IQ person isn't interested in becoming an elite chess player, his or her results will not be very good. Not everyone spends every day worrying about their chess rating.

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eathealthyfoods wrote:

I suggest you to watch anime videos. Words are not enough to describe of what you want to know. Even though you know everything, the metric itself is not reliable.

ah, another anime fan who thinks watching anime is the solution to everything

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Okay, for layman's term. This is how it is.

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Animes even cartoons are made with love. You must not underestimate them.

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y e s

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In response to the OP's question, I sure hope so!

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yes, if you had a really high iq but never studied chess then obvously you would be bad. But higher iq people tend to grasp stuff faster so they would get better, faster than lets say an average person.

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Wrecklass wrote:
Chess is a matter of memorization, spatial awareness and problem solving. IQ can help but perseverance and training make a bigger difference.
Almost no one starts out late in life and becomes a GM. Even those with great IQs. Which tells us quite a bit about the relationship of chess and IQ.

This is an insightful comment. Are there studies confirming starting training at a young age with higher brain plasticity is essential to succeed as a professional chess player?

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@20

"Are there studies confirming starting training at a young age with higher brain plasticity is essential to succeed as a professional chess player?"
++ Yes. Read Lazlo Polgar (pedagogue) who claimed he could make any kid excel at chess if starting at a young age. He sort of proved it with his three daughters.

There is also literature on neuroplasticity: the juvenile brain is more malleable.

By the way GM Nakamura, top 3 of the world, has an IQ of only 102, i.e. average.
From that we can infer that there certainly exist masters with below average IQ.

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depends. people with high IQs could have just started chess