Can you improve your game playing daily chess, or is it just different

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BlackDeathRising
Adnan-ak wrote:
Scottrf написал:
torrubirubi wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

Of course but that’s time management, not using things that aren’t allowed in a proper chess game.

И чё это вам даёт?😐

In English he's saying, "and what does this give you?" At least I think that's roughly it.

AhmedMansour101
torrubirubi wrote:
Daily is a great way to improve your games.
First, it is a nice way to learn openings. In Daily games you are allowed to use a book or database. I recommend you to use both. Follow the recommendations by the author and as soon as your opponent deviate you use a database to see what other players have done in this line. One database is ChessBase Online, another is chessgames.com. If you don’t have a repertoire, go to Chessable and buy one (one repertoire as white, one as white). I cannot understand why a lot of players don’t use a database to go through the opening phase.
Second, you have time to think and analyse (without an engine, of course), so use this time to think and analyse. Before you make a move, be sure that you consider all sensible next moves by your opponent. Go through these lines, be sure that your move is strong and there is no immediate refutation by your opponent, and save your analyses. You can make notes about your plans, so you will remember what you was thinking. I do not write notes anymore, but I spend so much time analysing the games that I usually know exactly what is going on in ny games. There are some difficult positions where you have to spend 30 minutes or longer to find a good move. In really complex positions I spent 4 hours in one move. This is the way how strong people play, or people who want to get stronger.
In my experience there are few cheaters in Daily Chess, as our games are full of inaccuracies and mistakes. Chess.com detected very quick cheaters, even if they use an engine only for one or two moves. I know a guy who was banned because he played two moves with the help of an engine. So, don’t be afraid of cheaters.
Play perhaps three or four games simultaneously, but not more. Exception: tournaments. There you have usually to play against more opponents.
Good luck!

This is great, thank you!

bishoppairchess

I play daily games mostly because I can't always sit down and play a live game with my schedule. It allows me to continue to play chess despite being busy however there are a lot of things you need to learn to play this version of chess.

You have to keep the total amount of games low. It's difficult to keep the overall game in your mind if you have many games. This is a common mistake.

Secondly, try not to use the resources such as opening database and analysis board. If you really want to improve in chess it is beneficial to play the game without relying on crutches. You do not have these resources when playing OTB and shouldn't develop a dependence on them.

Another good tip is to use the conditional moves feature. It allows you to input your moves when the game is fresh in your mind and your responses to numerous continuations. You just need to make sure you aren't blundering anything.

AhmedMansour101
bishoppairchess wrote:

I play daily games mostly because I can't always sit down and play a live game with my schedule. It allows me to continue to play chess despite being busy however there are a lot of things you need to learn to play this version of chess.

You have to keep the total amount of games low. It's difficult to keep the overall game in your mind if you have many games. This is a common mistake.

Secondly, try not to use the resources such as opening database and analysis board. If you really want to improve in chess it is beneficial to play the game without relying on crutches. You do not have these resources when playing OTB and shouldn't develop a dependence on them.

Another good tip is to use the conditional moves feature. It allows you to input your moves when the game is fresh in your mind and your responses to numerous continuations. You just need to make sure you aren't blundering anything.

how to use the conditional moves feature? is it the same as the pre-move?

bishoppairchess
AhmedMansour101 wrote:
bishoppairchess wrote:

I play daily games mostly because I can't always sit down and play a live game with my schedule. It allows me to continue to play chess despite being busy however there are a lot of things you need to learn to play this version of chess.

You have to keep the total amount of games low. It's difficult to keep the overall game in your mind if you have many games. This is a common mistake.

Secondly, try not to use the resources such as opening database and analysis board. If you really want to improve in chess it is beneficial to play the game without relying on crutches. You do not have these resources when playing OTB and shouldn't develop a dependence on them.

Another good tip is to use the conditional moves feature. It allows you to input your moves when the game is fresh in your mind and your responses to numerous continuations. You just need to make sure you aren't blundering anything.

how to use the conditional moves feature? is it the same as the pre-move?

It's the second button if you look at the image below. It is different than pre-move but a similar idea. Try it out.

AhmedMansour101
bishoppairchess wrote:
AhmedMansour101 wrote:
bishoppairchess wrote:

I play daily games mostly because I can't always sit down and play a live game with my schedule. It allows me to continue to play chess despite being busy however there are a lot of things you need to learn to play this version of chess.

You have to keep the total amount of games low. It's difficult to keep the overall game in your mind if you have many games. This is a common mistake.

Secondly, try not to use the resources such as opening database and analysis board. If you really want to improve in chess it is beneficial to play the game without relying on crutches. You do not have these resources when playing OTB and shouldn't develop a dependence on them.

Another good tip is to use the conditional moves feature. It allows you to input your moves when the game is fresh in your mind and your responses to numerous continuations. You just need to make sure you aren't blundering anything.

how to use the conditional moves feature? is it the same as the pre-move?

It's the second button if you look at the image below. It is different than pre-move but a similar idea. Try it out.

I don't have it, could it be available only for paid accounts ?

AhmedMansour101
bishoppairchess wrote:
AhmedMansour101 wrote:
bishoppairchess wrote:

I play daily games mostly because I can't always sit down and play a live game with my schedule. It allows me to continue to play chess despite being busy however there are a lot of things you need to learn to play this version of chess.

You have to keep the total amount of games low. It's difficult to keep the overall game in your mind if you have many games. This is a common mistake.

Secondly, try not to use the resources such as opening database and analysis board. If you really want to improve in chess it is beneficial to play the game without relying on crutches. You do not have these resources when playing OTB and shouldn't develop a dependence on them.

Another good tip is to use the conditional moves feature. It allows you to input your moves when the game is fresh in your mind and your responses to numerous continuations. You just need to make sure you aren't blundering anything.

how to use the conditional moves feature? is it the same as the pre-move?

It's the second button if you look at the image below. It is different than pre-move but a similar idea. Try it out.

Thank you my friend, I appreciate it!

AhmedMansour101
Optimissed wrote:

The above is a mainly tactical game. I used an opening against the Nimzo which I wouldn't use any more. Black could have equalised by Re8 instead of g6?!. It illustrates how you can use the engine here to improve tactically, since the engine understands tactics. However, the following game, also 3-day Daily (with vacations allowed, which is important) is wholly positional. There are no tactics involved at all except to gain the winning advantage when the opponent had too many pieces committed to a premature K-side attack in a Stonewall Attack.

Here, I was awarded only 89% accuracy which illustrates that the engine hasn't much of a clue regarding positional chess. It even marked down black's ....e6 in the opening, preferring the maybe dubious ... Bf5, which just becomes a target for white. It seems it hadn't been programmed with this defence to the Stonewall Attack, which doesn't have a name and therefore the engine considers it wrong. According to it, "good" = "wrong" and "excellent" is sometimes a good alternative to "best", which sometimes isn't best but often is. At one point, it marked down a move in the winning sequence, preferring a move which throws the win entirely and allows white to escape with a draw. You can't learn positional chess through the engine analysis and therefore playing Daily is the best option for that. Incidentally, the resignation came after 44. ...a4. The "Game may have continued" rubbish needs to be got rid of or at least needs to be optional. And no, the game is not -3.75 because it's lost for white.

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Extremely grateful for the thorough explanation my friend!

However, I still can't find the conditional moves button.. I did a quick research and apparently It should be available when using the website and I am using the website but this is what displayed on my screen:

I've checked the settings to see if there's any option to be activated, but nothing there!

Anyway, thank you so much for your rich explanation!

AhmedMansour101
AhmedMansour101 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

The above is a mainly tactical game. I used an opening against the Nimzo which I wouldn't use any more. Black could have equalised by Re8 instead of g6?!. It illustrates how you can use the engine here to improve tactically, since the engine understands tactics. However, the following game, also 3-day Daily (with vacations allowed, which is important) is wholly positional. There are no tactics involved at all except to gain the winning advantage when the opponent had too many pieces committed to a premature K-side attack in a Stonewall Attack.

Here, I was awarded only 89% accuracy which illustrates that the engine hasn't much of a clue regarding positional chess. It even marked down black's ....e6 in the opening, preferring the maybe dubious ... Bf5, which just becomes a target for white. It seems it hadn't been programmed with this defence to the Stonewall Attack, which doesn't have a name and therefore the engine considers it wrong. According to it, "good" = "wrong" and "excellent" is sometimes a good alternative to "best", which sometimes isn't best but often is. At one point, it marked down a move in the winning sequence, preferring a move which throws the win entirely and allows white to escape with a draw. You can't learn positional chess through the engine analysis and therefore playing Daily is the best option for that. Incidentally, the resignation came after 44. ...a4. The "Game may have continued" rubbish needs to be got rid of or at least needs to be optional. And no, the game is not -3.75 because it's lost for white.

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Extremely grateful for the thorough explanation my friend!

However, I still can't find the conditional moves button.. I did a quick research and apparently It should be available when using the website and I am using the website but this is what displayed on my screen:

I've checked the settings to see if there's any option to be activated, but nothing there!

Anyway, thank you so much for your rich explanation!

I've found it.. it turned out that it's only activated when it's your opponent turn !