Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victory would have be an inevitability.
Carlsen just won Game 9. It's 95% done.
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letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Nov 21, 2013
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Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Thanks. LOL, why did you use Grey cup huh, you assume becuase i am canadian that I watch the CFL, you racist brah. No, but in all seriousness are you racist brah. LOL. For real, i agree with you that a good team does indeed compartmentalize the goals and objectives, thus harmnony is achieved, but many teams with the better talent have lost due to oversight. A better example of a team having weekly goals and winning the World champsionship would have been the 2004 NE Patroits.
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Thanks. LOL, why did you use Grey cup huh, you assume becuase i am canadian that I watch the CFL, you racist brah. No, but in all seriousness are you racist brah. LOL. For real, i agree with you that a good team does indeed compartmentalize the goals and objectives, thus harmnony is achieved, but many teams with the better talent have lost due to oversight. A better example of a team having weekly goals and winning the World champsionship would have been the 2004 NE Patroits.
Come on, all you guys up north of the border watch the Cup, that and hockey ..... with a nice fresh order of Poutine .... mmmmm, Poutine.
NE in '04 or the '72 Dolphins.
Good example of a team losing sight of the goal was the 90-91 Runnin' Rebels of UNLV (arguably the best team in the nation at the time with 5 players getting ddrafted by NBA teams) when they lost to a good but inferior team in Duke in the semi-finals. They should have won. But that game with Duke you could tell they were looking ahead.
hey guys....do you think you guys could do good against magnus if you guys worked togeather, all of chess.com
yup, that's how it works 
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Nov 21, 2013
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Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Thanks. LOL, why did you use Grey cup huh, you assume becuase i am canadian that I watch the CFL, you racist brah. No, but in all seriousness are you racist brah. LOL. For real, i agree with you that a good team does indeed compartmentalize the goals and objectives, thus harmnony is achieved, but many teams with the better talent have lost due to oversight. A better example of a team having weekly goals and winning the World champsionship would have been the 2004 NE Patroits.
Come on, all you guys up north of the border watch the Cup, that and hockey ..... with a nice fresh order of Poutine .... mmmmm, Poutine.
NE in '04 or the '72 Dolphins.
Good example of a team losing sight of the goal was the 90-91 Runnin' Rebels of UNLV (arguably the best team in the nation at the time with 5 players getting ddrafted by NBA teams) when they lost to a good but inferior team in Duke in the semi-finals. They should have won. But that game with Duke you could tell they were looking ahead.
I am disgusted at your racism brah, disgusted lol. Duke went on to beat the Fab 5 also that year. Duke was the epitomize what a well coached team can do against better talent.
One thing I don't get: Why did Anand allow Carlsen to queen his pawn so easily?
Nov 21, 2013
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gundamv wrote:
One thing I don't get: Why did Anand allow Carlsen to queen his pawn so easily?
I was wandering the same thing. I think he analzyed the situtation as futile and tried desperately to counterattack knowing he was down to his last moves. But, also it shows that Carlsen does calculate further than Anand, since Carlsen knew the futility of the situation once he traded his knight for the dark square bishop
jadarite wrote:
"he can just sit back and either wait for Anand to blunder again"
Yes, but let's see him win as white instead. I prefer to see the 1 point game wins as white instead of 1 point wins as black because white took a chance and "blundered".
"You do understand that it is the first to 6 1/2, right?"
How you arrive should also matter. Let's see Carlsen win more as white. Hiding your pieces on the back rank is not playing chess.
You are very funny. International Masters and Grandmasters are raving about his play, but somehow you find something to criticize. Perhaps you should give Carlsen a lesson or two to sharpen his skills.
jadarite wrote:
"You are very funny. International Masters and Grandmasters are raving about his play, but somehow you find something to criticize. Perhaps you should give Carlsen a lesson or two to sharpen his skills."
If they could do the same, they would want it too. I don't see anything surprising in what you have stated. Here is the lesson for Carlsen. WIN MORE GAMES AS WHITE. It's not a hard concept.
Magnus is only 1 game ahead with white.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov
Kasparov vs. Deep Blue
He won 3 games out of the 12 played as white.
Do you really think it matters what your opinion is? He is going to be World Champion and I doubt he will shed a tear about a class player thinking he should win more as White against one of the strongest players ever.
Nov 21, 2013
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EricFleet wrote:
jadarite wrote:
"You are very funny. International Masters and Grandmasters are raving about his play, but somehow you find something to criticize. Perhaps you should give Carlsen a lesson or two to sharpen his skills."
If they could do the same, they would want it too. I don't see anything surprising in what you have stated. Here is the lesson for Carlsen. WIN MORE GAMES AS WHITE. It's not a hard concept.
Magnus is only 1 game ahead with white.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov
Kasparov vs. Deep Blue
He won 3 games out of the 12 played as white.
Do you really think it matters what your opinion is? He is going to be World Champion and I doubt he will shed a tear about a class player thinking he should win more as White against one of the strongest players ever.
I need to intervene before this becomes abusive. Hi ericfleet why are becoming so emotional?
Nov 21, 2013
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#34
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Thanks. LOL, why did you use Grey cup huh, you assume becuase i am canadian that I watch the CFL, you racist brah. No, but in all seriousness are you racist brah. LOL. For real, i agree with you that a good team does indeed compartmentalize the goals and objectives, thus harmnony is achieved, but many teams with the better talent have lost due to oversight. A better example of a team having weekly goals and winning the World champsionship would have been the 2004 NE Patroits.
Come on, all you guys up north of the border watch the Cup, that and hockey ..... with a nice fresh order of Poutine .... mmmmm, Poutine.
NE in '04 or the '72 Dolphins.
Good example of a team losing sight of the goal was the 90-91 Runnin' Rebels of UNLV (arguably the best team in the nation at the time with 5 players getting ddrafted by NBA teams) when they lost to a good but inferior team in Duke in the semi-finals. They should have won. But that game with Duke you could tell they were looking ahead.
I am disgusted at your racism brah, disgusted lol. Duke went on to beat the Fab 5 also that year. Duke was the epitomize what a well coached team can do against better talent.
its a shame people have to do to things, bring up the race card, and insult eachother, one you did, the other the other guy did, now I can agree that yes a team better set on winning their championship was the 04 Pats, or the 72 Dolphins, but my personal favorite is the 07 Pats (lost the superbowl because of *** ******* got lucky)they won every game of the season until the superbowl doing it on all 3 sides of the ball, Brady broke the single season TD record in terms of passing and Moss did it recieving,They dominated quite a few teams by scores like 42-13, 38-7 and others that were just as bad, And so I don't sound like a bandwagon Patriots fan (I ain't I've liked them since I started watching American Football) I will name a few players from before the Brady-Bellicheck era, Bledsoe, Plunkett, Vrable, Flutie, Vinitieri, and A coach, Bill Parcells
Nov 21, 2013
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#35
jetfighter13 wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Rsava wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Yes, I agree with you that his mentality is indeed stronger, however a mindset to win can translate into possible oversight which will allow Anand a chance. You should read my post(#19) on http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/guess-carlsens-seconds, it will give you some insight on how seconds should be picked in the future. Also, I do like quoting the art of war ONLY when it completely necessary. If Carlsen picked seconds as I advocated then his victroy would have be an inevitability.
Good post on seconds. A well balanced team to train/discuss/strategize each game.
A mindset to win does not really have the translate into possible oversight.
The mindset that you are going to win perhaps, or the mindset that you cannot lose more so.
But a mindset to win means facing each challenge as it comes up. E.g. a football team set on winning the Grey Cup would probably go about looking at week 1, not looking ahead to week 2. After week 1 then they look to week 2.
Thanks. LOL, why did you use Grey cup huh, you assume becuase i am canadian that I watch the CFL, you racist brah. No, but in all seriousness are you racist brah. LOL. For real, i agree with you that a good team does indeed compartmentalize the goals and objectives, thus harmnony is achieved, but many teams with the better talent have lost due to oversight. A better example of a team having weekly goals and winning the World champsionship would have been the 2004 NE Patroits.
Come on, all you guys up north of the border watch the Cup, that and hockey ..... with a nice fresh order of Poutine .... mmmmm, Poutine.
NE in '04 or the '72 Dolphins.
Good example of a team losing sight of the goal was the 90-91 Runnin' Rebels of UNLV (arguably the best team in the nation at the time with 5 players getting ddrafted by NBA teams) when they lost to a good but inferior team in Duke in the semi-finals. They should have won. But that game with Duke you could tell they were looking ahead.
I am disgusted at your racism brah, disgusted lol. Duke went on to beat the Fab 5 also that year. Duke was the epitomize what a well coached team can do against better talent.
its a shame people have to do to things, bring up the race card, and insult eachother, one you did, the other the other guy did, now I can agree that yes a team better set on winning their championship was the 04 Pats, or the 72 Dolphins, but my personal favorite is the 07 Pats (lost the superbowl because of *** ******* got lucky)they won every game of the season until the superbowl doing it on all 3 sides of the ball, Brady broke the single season TD record in terms of passing and Moss did it recieving,They dominated quite a few teams by scores like 42-13, 38-7 and others that were just as bad, And so I don't sound like a bandwagon Patriots fan (I ain't I've liked them since I started watching American Football) I will name a few players from before the Brady-Bellicheck era, Bledsoe, Plunkett, Vrable, Flutie, Vinitieri, and A coach, Bill Parcells
lol about the racism stuff. But my kind of guy that knows the history of the Pats. That '07 superbowl was tough brah I really wanted to see the perfect season.
Nov 21, 2013
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#36
how can somebody be racist to a country brah? Allow me to explain racism is a form of discrimination, therefore a white man can be racist to another white man from another country brah. That is all lol
letsgohome wrote:
I need to intervene before this becomes abusive. Hi ericfleet why are becoming so emotional?
It is a simple statement of facts. Were any of them inaccurate?
Nov 21, 2013
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#39
Do you really think it matters what your opinion is?
Everybody's opinion does matter to someone. Therefore, there is some inaccuracies in what you are saying.
He is going to be World Champion.....
There is still a mathematical chance that Anand can come back, so here is yet another inaccuracy.
But in its entirety you do have valid points, but just refrain from showing so much emotion, imperturbability is paramount in chess and everything in life. That is all.
letsgohome wrote:
5% is plenty for anand, a world champion, to comeback.
A 5% chance is a 5% chance whether it is a bum or world champion... I'd put his chances much lower, IMO. Carlsen has White two times, correct? Assuming Anand is swinging for the fences in all three, I'd guess he has about a 2% chance.
I'm not taking anything away from Anand and think he will go down as one of the greatest of all times, but I'm not sure there is anyone who could take 3 in a row against Carlsen the way he is playing.
Tell me he did NOT just go Sun-Tzu all over the investment analogy.
Tell me he didn't!
I did because it was necessary. I agree with you that it is nearly impossible for Anand to come back, however with an ego comes complacency brah.
Yes, complacency is a common pitfall. I do not think that will happen this time with Carlsen. Maybe inthe past, maybe next time. This one? He has his mind set to win it.