Carlsen losing?

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rooperi

Yup, over. 1-0

eddysallin

rg2+,kh8,rh2+,kg8,be6+ and thats that.

rooperi

Now Carlsen's in the lead on his own, ½ ahead of Anand

Conflagration_Planet

C :

Scottrf
Chris2509 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Chris2509 wrote:

Can someone explain move 50 where Carlsen sacrificed his rook?

Well, he's either losing the exchange or his bishop.

Doesn't sac the piece, the check is just an intermezzo.

So moves 46-50 are blunders of both sides?

No? Neither could avoid giving up the exchange.

waffllemaster
Chris2509 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Chris2509 wrote:

Can someone explain move 50 where Carlsen sacrificed his rook?

Well, he's either losing the exchange or his bishop.

Doesn't sac the piece, the check is just an intermezzo.

So moves 46-50 are blunders of both sides?

Of course not.  GM chess isn't backyard baby chess, maybe 1 in a billion moves they miss something so easy as a fork.


Also, I'm sure this whole sequence was seen many moves ahead.  They're spending their time evaluating the winning chances of the final position (possibly many moves after the tactics have cleared).  They're not sitting there like amateurs do and thinking "oh crap, my rook is pinned, how am I going to get out of this... oh wow, I think I can sacrifice a pawn!"

No... not at all... lol.

Chris2509
waffllemaster wrote:
Chris2509 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Chris2509 wrote:

Can someone explain move 50 where Carlsen sacrificed his rook?

Well, he's either losing the exchange or his bishop.

Doesn't sac the piece, the check is just an intermezzo.

So moves 46-50 are blunders of both sides?

Of course not.  GM chess isn't backyard baby chess, maybe 1 in a billion moves they miss something so easy as a fork.

 


Also, I'm sure this whole sequence was seen many moves ahead.  They're spending their time evaluating the winning chances of the final position (possibly many moves after the tactics have cleared).  They're not sitting there like amateurs do and thinking "oh crap, my rook is pinned, how am I going to get out of this... oh wow, I think I can sacrifice a pawn!"

No... not at all... lol.

 

I was pretty sure I'm missing something. Thanks!

chopwood

Rcxc5 Bxf7, possibly.

chopwood

Pardon me. Let me look some more.

chopwood

50 Rcxc5 Bxc5 just drops the exchange for a pawn. White goes from a possible win to a draw.

Conflagration_Planet

Could Carlsen be secretly being coached by the back yard professor?

nameno1had
Chris2509 wrote:

Can someone explain move 50 where Carlsen sacrificed his rook?

Without looking specifically at the moves, sometimes it is better to sacrifice a piece and keep the initiative and/or get a better position, than to fight to keep a material advantage, then end up losing the initiative and positional superiority, only to in turn, surrender a piece. If Makhail Tal was never able to prove material advantage wasn't always important, I am not sure who ever could.

varelse1

Leave it to Carlsen to sqeeze out a win from an op-colored bishop ending with even material.

How many of us would have offered the draw, and went back to our rooms?

Conflagration_Planet
varelse1 wrote:

Leave it to Carlsen to sqeeze out a win from an op-colored bishop ending with even material.

How many of us would have offered the draw, and went back to our rooms?

I probably would have.

nameno1had

I probably would have tried too hard to win and then lost...

Conflagration_Planet

I probably would have tried too hard to lose, then won.

nameno1had
Conflagration_Planet wrote:

I probably would have tried too hard to lose, then won.

I've never bothered to try reverse psychology on my opponents....they always catch my blunders...

Conflagration_Planet

Could you imagine the look on his puss, if some low rated patzer kicked his butt?

chopwood

I'd like to know where to go for fresh news on this match. All my feeds give me is 15 hours to 3 days old. Any help?

Scottrf

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