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Avatar of Pronk01

Giving up Queen for castle is a negative ev play. I think for beginners castleing is a safe play if you are unsure of your next move and want to see what your opponet will play. It can help you safegaurd king and position rook for attack on open file but I think it is mostly situational. Don't play your pieces simply to castle. 

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N2UHC wrote:

What are the 5 castling rules?  I can only think of:

Castling can be done only if the king hasn't moved yet, and there are no pieces between the king & rook.

No castling through check

When castling, the king moves two spaces to the left or the right, and the rook goes one space next to the king opposite of where it started.

Can't think of any other rules


1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

many people don't know about rule #5 but when you think about it it makes sense

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None of us are GMs.  Let me quote GM Eduard Gufeld. He was the coach to the Womans's world champion Maya Chiburdanidze and who defeated world champions at least five times (including Tal, Smyslov) who told me, "Castling is the most important move in chess."  Enough said.

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TheMouse wrote:
nonowho wrote:
N2UHC wrote:

What are the 5 castling rules?  I can only think of:

Castling can be done only if the king hasn't moved yet, and there are no pieces between the king & rook.

No castling through check

When castling, the king moves two spaces to the left or the right, and the rook goes one space next to the king opposite of where it started.

Can't think of any other rules


1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

many people don't know about rule #5 but when you think about it it makes sense


Also, the king and rook must be on the same rank.

 


you just restated rule #1

Avatar of Hypocrism
TheMouse wrote:
nonowho wrote:
N2UHC wrote:

What are the 5 castling rules?  I can only think of:

Castling can be done only if the king hasn't moved yet, and there are no pieces between the king & rook.

No castling through check

When castling, the king moves two spaces to the left or the right, and the rook goes one space next to the king opposite of where it started.

Can't think of any other rules


1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

many people don't know about rule #5 but when you think about it it makes sense


Also, the king and rook must be on the same rank.

 


This was an awesome post.

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Hypocrism wrote:
TheMouse wrote:
nonowho wrote:
N2UHC wrote:

What are the 5 castling rules?  I can only think of:

Castling can be done only if the king hasn't moved yet, and there are no pieces between the king & rook.

No castling through check

When castling, the king moves two spaces to the left or the right, and the rook goes one space next to the king opposite of where it started.

Can't think of any other rules


1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

many people don't know about rule #5 but when you think about it it makes sense


Also, the king and rook must be on the same rank.

 


This was an awesome post.


how is it awesome?

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nonowho wrote:
TheMouse wrote:
nonowho wrote:
N2UHC wrote:

What are the 5 castling rules?  I can only think of:

Castling can be done only if the king hasn't moved yet, and there are no pieces between the king & rook.

No castling through check

When castling, the king moves two spaces to the left or the right, and the rook goes one space next to the king opposite of where it started.

Can't think of any other rules


1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

many people don't know about rule #5 but when you think about it it makes sense


Also, the king and rook must be on the same rank.

 


you just restated rule #1


sorry you just restated rule #2 & #3 for the pieces to NOT be on the same rank one ot them would have to move

Avatar of crisy

nonowho, look again at TheMouse's diagram. If the pawn promotes to a R on e8, W could 'castle' by moving K to e3 and R from e8 to e2. Under the rules, W can only castle with the R on a1, not the R on e8. The rule about being on the same rank is necessary and not just a repeat.

Avatar of jjeffrey

nonowho originally asks:

just please tell me how many points you think castleing is worth.

nonowho then states 5 points about castleing:

1.) all of the spaces between the king and the rook must be cleared

2.) must be kings first move

3.) must be the rook in question's first move

4.) King can't land in check

5.) King may not pass through check

I therefore deduce that castleing is worthy of 5 points!