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SuniSehdev

Humans are just like computers. We have processing power, we have stamina. 

Just like computers, the conditions that the processor/brain is maintained correlate to the lifespan of the processor. 

Play chess all day in a dark room, with minimal social interaction, absolute focus, and basic necessities. You could be so passionate about chess to begin with, but eventually you will seek an environment that satisfies your well-being. Like a better cooling system, a more nurturing fruitful environment.

Maybe chess played in moderation won't cause certain people mental problems, but excess chess to the extent that it's an exhausting obsession can cause problems.

 

Optimissed
MarksmenTM wrote:

 "anyone want to venture a comment on whether the two are related?" Everything  this thread will lead to is right here, in this question. It is not about a solid answer, just a whimsical discussion. Honestly, not my thing. That being said:

"I read somewhere that the "highs" and "lows" a chess player experiences during a game, combined with the anxiety, tension and stress of high-level chess, can exacerbate or bring to the surface an existing mental illness but is unlikely to be the cause. " The first post already defines the closest approximation we will reach.
Some of the opinions are vastly more interesting than the Original question. For example, Kenpos view of the introvert. Conversely, I would say there is no real division between extravert and introvert. They are accentuated roles of a confused ego. Both cases have been ruthelessly stretched to narcissism with unabashad certainty simply to fit within aptly defined boundaries. Not a single person is exclusively either. Then to mention the artificial division it creates between the ignorant of the two groups which otherwise have no backing to despise eachothers positions. These two considerations definitely point to both an extravert and an introvert as mentally deficient. While the second point is what I would call insanity, the total focus leads to broader psychology, motive, and power. All of which, I am more interested in than a correlation between a habit(or hobby) and its diverse possibilities.


Maybe think of it this way. We're all balanced between introvert and extrovert. They're just opposite ends of a spectrum. Maybe ties in with other factors or other personality traits? For instance, if we are highly confident, it's likely that we will be equally confident by ourselves for a protracted time or with participating actively in the company of others. If we have a personality imbalance we might, however, be unhappy by ourselves and calmer in the company of others, which "takes our mind off things", or we may feel subliminally threatened by being surrounded by other people.

To be honest, that's where good manners come in. If we're brought up to display good manners, then we will always do the necessary, in the company of others. That is to display basic politeness. And maybe we've all heard by now about Covid dogs and the fact that they can't stand their own company, very often, which can frighten them and makes them intensely nervous, because they were never used to being by themselves when they were puppies.

Chess might be good for people who spend lots of time with others and maybe it might not be so good for those who are already loners or who feel at odds with society. Maybe low-key sociopaths or, maybe more likely, suffering from long-term, acute depression. I've known a good few chess players who have committed suicide.

blueemu
chesspooljuly13 wrote:

Anyone want to venture a comment on whether the two are related?

You don't need to be crazy to play chess, but it helps.

Fajny_Nikos

nice

blueemu
nicbentulan wrote:

What about 9LX ?

I think he offers an opinion.

Opinions are like butt-holes. Everybody's got one, and most of them stink.

Optimissed

I've just been asked to express an opinion but I wouldn't really like to say that one is better than the other for mental health. Openings are very difficult and are likely to be the most difficult part of chess. That's why we tend to have pre-set plans, which we can rely on to some degree. I was playing quite a bit of Chess 960 last year or the year before and enjoyed it very much. Indeed, I did find it extremely difficult, possibly partly due to my age. I tried hard not to lose and indeed to win my games. I think I started at 800 and got myself up to nearly 1800 and became too busy to play. I'd love to do it some more.

I believe that Chess 960 is suitable for confident and creative people and probably unsuitable for those who are not confident and perhaps less creative, unless they wish to improve those attributes in themselves. This is just an opinion of the top of my head but it would mean that either one isn't better for the mental health and the other worse, without taking personality types into account. Perhaps the entire thing rests on two mental dramas, if you like. One would be being confident enough to rely on your own abilities, such as they are; and to enjoy doing that. If you don't or can't enjoy doing that, then perhaps chess 960 will be more difficult. I wouldn't say more damaging: just difficult for some personality types. To play it and to remain happy.

Then again, there's a humdrum aspect to normal chess, which is particularly marked when you're at a particular level of development in your chess ability, when creativity is coming hard and yet it's always the same position, which may seem stifling. I can see that being challenging for some people.

Mental health is all about how people meet their personal challenges and whether they tend to gain from everything or the opposite. It's possible to gain from most things that aren't too damaging in the short term.

slaveofjesuschrist

its better than watching porn and playing casino, unfortunately now they have live girls and they from colombia and venezuela well , itll work tiself out, follow me i know de way, discipline, and practice and love and patience and faith and for da brothers they guide,

Ryantyler09

Don't forget steinitz.. He went a little nuts there at the end too.. tongue.png

Optimissed
nicbentulan wrote:
 

ok fine fine thanks for your honesty.

Your response @glider1001 ? XD


My wife's an ex mental nurse so she's seen quite a lot. But now she has a Masters in psychology and is a practising psychotherapist, which she's also taught at university level, so she's quite knowledgeable, even though she took her nurse training in the 1970s. I sort of pick up bits and pieces from her.