Elo is the predecessor.
Chess.com uses Glicko-1.
Lichess uses Glicko-2.
Very good to know. The old wisdom used to be that Lichess ratings were naturally higher than chess.com for the same player. Is that true today?
Thanks
Elo is the predecessor.
Chess.com uses Glicko-1.
Lichess uses Glicko-2.
Very good to know. The old wisdom used to be that Lichess ratings were naturally higher than chess.com for the same player. Is that true today?
Thanks
Elo is the predecessor.
Chess.com uses Glicko-1.
Lichess uses Glicko-2.
Very good to know. The old wisdom used to be that Lichess ratings were naturally higher than chess.com for the same player. Is that true today?
Thanks
Yes, Lichess ratings are inflated compared to Chess.com’s.
Lichess ratings are way different, that is for sure. I am 1950 there on Blitz, and 2100 on Rapid (LMAO). Chess,com I have bust a gut to get back over 1550 on the blitz, and about 1880 on Rapid
Lichess ratings are way different, that is for sure. I am 1950 there on Blitz, and 2100 on Rapid (LMAO). Chess,com I have bust a gut to get back over 1550 on the blitz, and about 1880 on Rapid
Yes, even I am 1900 rapid on there.
Can only laugh some times. Just played a guy rated 1390 who was unbelievably accurate.
Over 90% accuracy and he barely made put a foot wrong over 56 moves. Totally messed up. That is me done with this crazy site. If I wanted to play against computers I could choose that option
They're both chess sites.
There's no difference in experience on either site, if we're purely looking at the chess.
In terms of the community, chess.com is by far worse.
I like chess.com because I can use play chess even using mobile phohe.
At my current age, 57 I need to keep my mind active and for it it is good to play chess and make mental activities. I was also a Math comunity top user at former Yahoo! Answers. Today I am at Quora. I don't intend to be a champion, maybe make best my ELO, and it is good to me.
I just play to meet people, make friends all over the world and keep my brain exercised .
My Nick, Pan troglodites, to be acurate should be with "Y" not "I" is a way of alerting people to the preservation of animals, in particular, I adopted the nick Pan troglodites, the chimpanzee, for fun.
They're both chess sites.
There's no difference in experience on either site, if we're purely looking at the chess.
In terms of the community, chess.com is by far worse.
Community is worse on chess.com? what do you mean? People are more aggressive, more likely to cheat? Or just less fun to talk to??
Can only laugh some times. Just played a guy rated 1390 who was unbelievably accurate.
Over 90% accuracy and he barely made put a foot wrong over 56 moves. Totally messed up. That is me done with this crazy site. If I wanted to play against computers I could choose that option
I looked at the game in question. It does show that your opponent had 1700+ rating back in 2018, so perhaps he got on too many losing streaks since, or the field has just gotten tougher, with a lot of new, strong players. I prefer to go by innocent until proven guilty, and looking at the game. I doubt he used engine assistance. Also, his 8th move (8. dxe5) is a blatant strategic error. I don't think it's wise as White to exchange like that when playing against an old Indian/Philidor Hanham structure like that. It gives Black way too much comfort.
But I think what may be going on is pattern recognition with a lot of club players. The guy you played with is probably a very experienced club player with hundeds of thousands of games under his belt. And a lot of club players develop these "systems" (think London system, where White will always have the c3-d4-e3, Nf3, Bf4 type setup in every 1. d4 game), and there are even books on the London system, and it's possible to read cover to cover, and develop these highly patterned approaches to chess and spend the minimum amount of time on your clock, which is very advantageous in blitz. I noticed a lot of this sort of play on chess.com, but although I may personally find it a bit annoying, there's nothing wrong with it in any way. What I've always loved about chess is that it's one of those games where a person can totally tailor their game and style of play to their temperament and personality, so each of us can find our own place under the sun. But yes, 90%+ accuracy is not unheard of in individual games. I've gotten that a few times myself. Sometimes, I am just inspired and on a roll, and am playing way beyond what my rating my indicate. But then again, I got really good at chess way back in my teens and literally quit b/c I'd get way too depressed after some heavy losses. And I wish I hadn't b/c I'd probably be around 1900-2000 today had I stuck around and learned the art of staying humble and grounded after occasionally losing badly.
And also, Black is a bit on the auto-pilot here on move 13...Nd7, with the whole f7-f5-f4, Nd7-f6-h5-g3 maneuver, where playing something like 13...Ng4 and liquidating White's black-squared bishop may have been a better strategy. But sometimes those patterns of wanting to push the f-pawn against our opponent and eventually getting the knight on g3 may stand in the way of seeing better moves, such as 13...Ng4. Only pointing out b/c there is a lot of pre-learned, patterned play in blitz among club players that may look like engine assistance is being used when it actually isn't.
They're both chess sites.
There's no difference in experience on either site, if we're purely looking at the chess.
In terms of the community, chess.com is by far worse.
Community is worse on chess.com? what do you mean? People are more aggressive, more likely to cheat? Or just less fun to talk to??
More toxic, stupid, childish, immature.
PhiRev. Thanks for your intelligent feedback. I didn't want to accuse the guy of unfair play. He's probably just a good player. But in Blitz, I don't expect people to be as accurate as you suggest. Limited time in Blitz, and a player rated in the 1300s. It's crazy. I used to be 1700+ on here and I won't get back to that on blitz. The level is too high, the ratings are unrealistic and far too low. Lichess, well the ratings are far too high but at least I can improve there.
ChrisZifo, you do raise some very valid points , though, and yes, it seems odd that the chess players have improved so much that playing a 1300 player on chess.com feels like playing a 1700 player in OTB chess in a local tournament. And, I've also noticed how well he's played in the endgame. Perhaps, he spent the entire summer being glued to those 2 Reuben Fine's classic books on endgames, but I also get your point. It does feel very discouraging when playing a 1300 player in blitz feels like playing a 1600-1700 player who's on a roll. Totally agree with that, and I so wish we had more data mining tools here when searching games. I'd love rating and accuracy to be searchable parameters. Imagine if we could search on rating + accuracy + time of day. There would be some very interesting patterns one could discover. I've also asked chess.com support about doing rating + opening searches. This would be so helpful for any future game/tournament prep. Analyzing GM games is always great for one's chess skills, but being able to do advanced searches of the openings players of similar strength are playing would be invaluable.
Agreed.