chess.com should allow illegal moves and allow people to claim illegal moves

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Avatar of HangingPiecesChomper

Would make it more realistic no? Have an additional button claiming your opponent made an illegal move and you gain more time if they made an illegal move.

Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry

I think that would lead to beginners hanging their kings which would likely be a little bit problematic to code… it would also be awful for people playing bullet.

also, it surely makes more sense that the site is there doing the arbiter’s job? Like, in a tournament you’re not allowed to play illegal moves, this just skips a step….

Avatar of Kohlithebest

yep

Avatar of HangingPiecesChomper

Wouldn't be hard to code, and I don't see how it would be bad for bullet when bullet otb is a complete mess.

Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

Wouldn't be hard to code, and I don't see how it would be bad for bullet when bullet otb is a complete mess.

Why would we facilitate people not playing by the rules? What do we gain?

Avatar of HangingPiecesChomper

makes it way more realistic to otb obviously

Avatar of sndeww

There's no need to include the deficiencies of otb play if we don't have to.

Avatar of Marquee_K

81Dojo, which is an online shogi server implements this for all users, except your opponent doesn't even need to claim it. An illegal move results in an instant loss without any warnings, with just a red arrow pointing to the violation. It doesn't apply to basic piece movement to avoid losing from a simple mouse slip, but does apply to forbidden moves like failing to move your king out of check, moving your king into check, and some shogi specific violations like dropping a second pawn on a file or mating with a dropped pawn.

Many complain that it's too harsh, and you could flagged for malicious rage quitting by intentionally making illegal moves. But I think it's a good way to prep yourself for OTB games where nothing is preventing you from losing in this way and this would apply to chess too.

Avatar of Clockwork_Nemesis
Hell no. I go to OTB tournaments all the time and it’s extremely rare to see an illegal move.
Avatar of TheFlyingDorito
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

Would make it more realistic no? Have an additional button claiming your opponent made an illegal move and you gain more time if they made an illegal move.

It would make it more realistic, they could even add a mode for that, but it would just be too problematic to code and worry-some for beginners

Avatar of HangingPiecesChomper

It would be easy for a rookie programmer to code considering they already programmed checking whether a move is legal or not. Literally they just have to store a flag using the same legal move checker.

Avatar of TheFlyingDorito

Good point, I guess its all just up to developers.

Avatar of Verwarr

I agree with you, but with how chess.com can't even make a good forum for the app on the phone, I doubt the results will be good and probably have a lot of bug in it.

Avatar of SacrifycedStoat
That would be horrible. The entire point of check/checkmate is that you don’t lose to an “oh, I didn’t see you were threatening my king.”
Avatar of SacrifycedStoat
There could be a setting called “allow illegal moves” where what you described happens if both people have it on.
Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

makes it way more realistic to otb obviously

But why do we want to do that? Do you also turn on 3D pieces? No? Okay, then it’s not really about making it like OTB, is it?

Avatar of HangingPiecesChomper

I thought the point of this site was to give user experience of playing real chess

Avatar of Sobrukai

OTB chess and online chess are two seperate ways to play this game. There is no reason to attempt to conform online chess to better fit OTB chess.

Avatar of MariasWhiteKnight

That means they would take away one of the advantages of online chess for no reason whatsoever.

Avatar of Snowchlobe

That would just get rid of premoves.

Let's say you have a king and a pawn against 5 queens. You then make an illegal move and your opponent premoves a move back which is now illegal. Your can claim an illegal move and win even though you're dead lost.