Chess Ethics

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evansgambit15

which book is it because i want to see this original concept

ponz111

I really am not interested in harming the person who did what he did.

He may have his own demons. 

ponz111

In reply to birdbrain. If anyone is the least bit interested in the Ponziani

Opening or interested in some chess stories as I gave above--please join the group Ponziani Power.

 

We are playing vote chess now but it is not necessary to play to join our group. 

1pawndown

The behavior was rude perhaps, but not unethical given the manner he was given the project. Perhaps you should have retained an interest in the book rather than giving it completely away.

ponz111

At the time was too sick to care.

I don't mind that he got the financial rewards. But striking out items which might pertain to me was a little beyond the pale. It was going out of his way to make sure that the book could not be traced back to me.

But regardless of that--I do not wish any kind of adversity to him because of the book. [or the way he handled the situation]

Conflagration_Planet
ponz111 wrote:

At the time was too sick to care.

I don't mind that he got the financial rewards. But striking out items which might pertain to me was a little beyond the pale. It was going out of his way to make sure that the book could not be traced back to me.

But regardless of that--I do not wish any kind of adversity to him because of the book. [or the way he handled the situation]

Are you sure that really happened?

ponz111

Sure, I get it. I know next to nothing about publishing ethics and in any event was too ill to document anything.

Just an interesting sidelight in my life that is over. [the sidelight! Laughing]

ponz111

In answer to Conflagration--yes it really happened. Embarassed

Conflagration_Planet

It's not normal not to be somewhat pissed about something like that.

ponz111

Possibly I was for a short while. But I was so sick it didn't that much matter to me.

Now seeing it from a different time--I am over being upset--Guess I was upset for a day or two.

gabrucho

It seems to me that your friend was caught by the hand of greed, hence decided to assume creation of the book. After a while its easy to him, in a certain level, to pass to "believe" that the book was actually his creation. Anyway, to hide the shame that he feels about his own actions he turns mad at you and cuts the relationship; You, that was reasonibly(is that written correctly?) proud of your accomplishment(the book), were expecting some aknowledgement about your "contributions", even though when you gave him your book you told him that he could assume authory of it.

Right? Wrong? Those questions can only be answered from a certain perspective, that can or not be shared. Ultimately, right or wrong are matters of "opinion"(society, culture...). 

At the end both your actions are very natural, human behavior. I think that you did very well facing the situation, and if you still have some "bad feelings" towards this fellow, remember that he is no different than you, no one is anyway. And let it go.

ponz111

Well, yes, I had hoped for a little acknowlegement of my contributations to this book. Instead he did what he could to hide my contributions-I gave him one of my best games for a small part of the book and he did not use that game but instead picked another of my games which was ok but not one of my best.  He did a couple of other things to take away part of my contributions-so I am guessing he was a little ashamed NOT to at least acknowledge some of my contributions.

However having said that--it bothered me for a day or two and then I decided to let it go as, after all, I did set up the situation in such a way that if he did not want to acknowledge my contributions--he did not have to.

Now, I do not like what he did but it is not worth keeping bad feelings.

So,really, I have let it go...

Conflagration_Planet
gabrucho wrote:

It seems to me that your friend was caught by the hand of greed, hence decided to assume creation of the book. After a while its easy to him, in a certain level, to pass to "believe" that the book was actually his creation. Anyway, to hide the shame that he feels about his own actions he turns mad at you and cuts the relationship; You, that was reasonably(is that written correctly?) proud of your accomplishment(the book), were expecting some acknowledgement about your "contributions", even though when you gave him your book you told him that he could assume authority of it.

Right? Wrong? Those questions can only be answered from a certain perspective, that can or not be shared. Ultimately, right or wrong are matters of "opinion"(society, culture...). 

At the end both your actions are very natural, human behavior. I think that you did very well facing the situation, and if you still have some "bad feelings" towards this fellow, remember that he is no different than you, no one is anyway. And let it go.

If I decided to gouge your eyes out with an ice pick, merely because I didn't like your looks, and society thought it was right, would you?

ChessSponge

I mostly want to know what the chess book is so I can know what the idea was. I'm kind of fascinated to hear of a first time ever approach to a chess book when chess has been around so long.

ponz111

wish I could tell you but then it would give away the whole book.

 

I suspose if you email me or message me privately and promise never to reveal I might tell you. I really do not want to do any harm to the party who is now the author of the book.