thats why you play with time
Chess Etiquette: Winning on time when you are extremely behind
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I offer a draw in 10 min games if I'm in a losing position but winning on time.
redrum007 wrote:
uri65 wrote:
redrum007 wrote:
ErikWQ wrote:
redrum007 wrote:
have lost so many games whilst having a surmountable lead in material, not my fault the opponent didnt use his time to think and make good moves, on almost even position or a little imbalanced in material, is completely fine but one should resign if he is in a completely lost position.
Its also not your opponents fault that you didn't leave yourself enough time to convert.
lmao you here to play chess or basically see the other person lose on time, while giving away a lead of like 20 points or 10 points or even > 7 points .. sorry to say but im talking about playing chess here not racing against the clock, as far as a lot of people having this delusion of 'converting' your lead, we aint masters here, if you would have just seen my rating its around the 1500 mark and certainly not adequate to blitz moves to a win when under time pressure, but certainly to think and make good moves and have a healthy lead early on , so please think before you speak ! also lets play together and see if i just make pawn moves 1 step and defending and you playing for a win and we'll see if you can barely even scratch the surface @ converting lmao also they dont even accept a draw P.S i wasnt talking about bullet games here
"Racing against the clock" is part of playing chess just as much as making good moves. If you don't like this it's your problem.
Why somebody should accept a draw when they can win within the rules? If you don't like the rules you can always play other games.
if you would have just read my post carefully, you would have realized already that, and i quote myself, "i am here to play chess, not race against the clock" i dont sit there making moves which dont contribute to active play just to put time pressure on the other person who is really trying to improve his game and improving upon the plans he has had to employ in his previous games or even just improving positional analysis ( all of which takes some time, and most of the time im not losing on time under moves 20 so yeah blitz or whatever making plans takes time, but you wouldnt know cause you race against the clock and have never tried to play any real chess), i get it i play blitz but only because i am not a full time player and dont have time to take out for rapid or classical games, but i just hate to see players who have no interest in playing and improving and just are plain egotistical about winning on time and who cannot accept that they lost at the more significant part of the game.
All in all you have your opinion i have mine and ill stick with mine
Why can’t you accept that you have lost according to rules? And who told you that position is more significant than time?
Nov 17, 2017
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#85
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
today i played a specimen that won as folllows : in a 5 minute game i lost connection twice, which set me behind for half the clock time, since his skill wasnt sufficient to win i got 2 pieces up, including the queen, the b*gger managed to win on time by hopping around like a madman... so many players here are completely honorless and chess.com does nothing against it ...
What are you complaing about? Your connection is not your opponent responsibility. Somebody with honour would rather fix it instead of complaining.
fix my provider?? hahaha you have humour :-) I guess this is how you win :-))
I win by any means within the rules. When playing on train and expecting disconnections I choose to play unrated. When my home WiFi had problems I played via my iPhone hotspot. You choose to play blitz on loosy connection and then to compain on the forums about losing on time. And then you preach about honours?!
can you clarify how exactly you come to the conclusion that my connection that is normally fine would become bad in a prvisible way ? sorry, next time you want to communicate think first, and avoid to blurt some crap
Nov 17, 2017
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#86
ErikWQ schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
ErikWQ schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
today i played a specimen that won as folllows : in a 5 minute game i lost connection twice, which set me behind for half the clock time, since his skill wasnt sufficient to win i got 2 pieces up, including the queen, the b*gger managed to win on time by hopping around like a madman... so many players here are completely honorless and chess.com does nothing against it ...
Boo hoo hoo get better internet.
haha another one that wants to debate and has no arguments its funny :-)
There's nothing to debate. You chose to play without increment, then came on here crying about honor after losing on time. Whining about that just makes you look like a big baby. I lose on time plenty but I don't come on here crying about it. Why? Because I chose to play without increment and didn't move fast enough. Because I know if I was the one up on time, I'd take the win without any hesitation. Last but not least, I know that NOBODY CARES. You lost a stupid online blitz game, get the hell over it.
you say there is nothing to debate, then why do you debate ? furthermore did you even read my post ? it seems that you completely missed the point haha it wasnt about loosing one game on time it was about ... sigh .....just read the post ok and try to figure out the point this time ...
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
today i played a specimen that won as folllows : in a 5 minute game i lost connection twice, which set me behind for half the clock time, since his skill wasnt sufficient to win i got 2 pieces up, including the queen, the b*gger managed to win on time by hopping around like a madman... so many players here are completely honorless and chess.com does nothing against it ...
What are you complaing about? Your connection is not your opponent responsibility. Somebody with honour would rather fix it instead of complaining.
fix my provider?? hahaha you have humour :-) I guess this is how you win :-))
I win by any means within the rules. When playing on train and expecting disconnections I choose to play unrated. When my home WiFi had problems I played via my iPhone hotspot. You choose to play blitz on loosy connection and then to compain on the forums about losing on time. And then you preach about honours?!
can you clarify how exactly you come to the conclusion that my connection that is normally fine would become bad in a prvisible way ? sorry, next time you want to communicate think first, and avoid to blurt some crap
If it was just one time connection problem and it did cost you one game - then what’s the big deal? I just think it’s completely inappropriate to complain in public forum about problems caused by YOUR connection and to call the other player names when he won the game perfectly within the rules.
Nov 17, 2017
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#88
I do find that frustrating. I recently lost a game on time after working out a winning pattern. I executed the plan, ended up in a much better position, up a lot in material, but they just threw their king around because I only had a few seconds left (with no increment per move). I felt it was bad sport, and it is an unpleasant way to lose, but at the end of the day my opponent has that option available, and they can use every tool at their disposal. If I don't like losing that way, I need to play faster next time.
In the reverse, however, I always resign in those situations, I feel like winning that way is cheap and unsatisfying. I'd rather be sporting.
Nov 17, 2017
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#90
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
today i played a specimen that won as folllows : in a 5 minute game i lost connection twice, which set me behind for half the clock time, since his skill wasnt sufficient to win i got 2 pieces up, including the queen, the b*gger managed to win on time by hopping around like a madman... so many players here are completely honorless and chess.com does nothing against it ...
What are you complaing about? Your connection is not your opponent responsibility. Somebody with honour would rather fix it instead of complaining.
fix my provider?? hahaha you have humour :-) I guess this is how you win :-))
I win by any means within the rules. When playing on train and expecting disconnections I choose to play unrated. When my home WiFi had problems I played via my iPhone hotspot. You choose to play blitz on loosy connection and then to compain on the forums about losing on time. And then you preach about honours?!
can you clarify how exactly you come to the conclusion that my connection that is normally fine would become bad in a prvisible way ? sorry, next time you want to communicate think first, and avoid to blurt some crap
If it was just one time connection problem and it did cost you one game - then what’s the big deal? I just think it’s completely inappropriate to complain in public forum about problems caused by YOUR connection and to call the other player names when he won the game perfectly within the rules.
since you don't get the point i will not talk to you again, its wasting my time ,,,
Nov 17, 2017
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#91
andrewnox schreef:
I do find that frustrating. I recently lost a game on time after working out a winning pattern. I executed the plan, ended up in a much better position, up a lot in material, but they just threw their king around because I only had a few seconds left (with no increment per move). I felt it was bad sport, and it is an unpleasant way to lose, but at the end of the day my opponent has that option available, and they can use every tool at their disposal. If I don't like losing that way, I need to play faster next time.
In the reverse, however, I always resign in those situations, I feel like winning that way is cheap and unsatisfying. I'd rather be sporting.
that's exactly what i mean
"I'm here to play 1 Minuite bullet- I want to play quickly! Checkmating me or me check mating you is not fair as the whole point of bullet is to move fast!"
This is similar to the argument some propose. In blitz and bullet time is a factor.
(I disagree with the Quote I made up, just using it to illustrate a point)
This is similar to the argument some propose. In blitz and bullet time is a factor.
(I disagree with the Quote I made up, just using it to illustrate a point)
Nov 17, 2017
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#93
Managing your time is as important as your position. I don't feel I owe any apologies when I win on time. Learn to manage your time or play longer time controls.
Nov 17, 2017
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#94
SmyslovFan wrote:
Alekhine's quote that mishandling the time can be compared to a lawbreaker trying to excuse his crime by claiming he was drunk has been mentioned before, but I am not sure if it's been presented in full:
"An awful move, the fact that White was very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered as an excuse, as for instance the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk at the moment that he committed the crime. the inability of an experienced master to deal with the clock should be considered as grave a fault as a miscalculation."
~From the tournament book on the Nottingham Chess tournament of 1936
Great quote. Thanks.
Nov 17, 2017
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#95
Sounds like a lot of people should play 30 minute or one hour chess if they want to just be allowed to think for a long time, or maybe they should have 30 minutes themselves and their opponent only have 5 minutes so that they can do what they seem to want to be allowed to do and spend as long as they want thinking while their opponent plays to the rules instead.
A winning position simply isn't a winning position if it takes so much time to arrive at that you run out. Sure just moving a king around aimlessly might be unfair, but it is also guaranteed to lose in a lost position against an opponent who has arrived at a winning position while properly managing their time.
No-one can prove that had their opponent also totally ignored the clock and thought longer about their moves that the game wouldn't have gone a completely different way, so trying to claim you deserve a win when you spent more time thinking than your opponent is totally bogus.
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
uri65 schreef:
its_only_me wrote:
today i played a specimen that won as folllows : in a 5 minute game i lost connection twice, which set me behind for half the clock time, since his skill wasnt sufficient to win i got 2 pieces up, including the queen, the b*gger managed to win on time by hopping around like a madman... so many players here are completely honorless and chess.com does nothing against it ...
What are you complaing about? Your connection is not your opponent responsibility. Somebody with honour would rather fix it instead of complaining.
fix my provider?? hahaha you have humour :-) I guess this is how you win :-))
I win by any means within the rules. When playing on train and expecting disconnections I choose to play unrated. When my home WiFi had problems I played via my iPhone hotspot. You choose to play blitz on loosy connection and then to compain on the forums about losing on time. And then you preach about honours?!
can you clarify how exactly you come to the conclusion that my connection that is normally fine would become bad in a prvisible way ? sorry, next time you want to communicate think first, and avoid to blurt some crap
If it was just one time connection problem and it did cost you one game - then what’s the big deal? I just think it’s completely inappropriate to complain in public forum about problems caused by YOUR connection and to call the other player names when he won the game perfectly within the rules.
since you don't get the point i will not talk to you again, its wasting my time ,,,
"specimen", "b*gger", "honorless" - those are words you use to describe someone who wins on time while behind in material. Your point is very clear. You invented your own rules besides those defined by FIDE and chess.com and now you are trying to shove these rules down everybody's else throat.
This reminds me of poker players who whine about losing showdowns with second best hands when someone invokes the "cards speak" rule when the rightful winner initially miscalled his hand.
There is nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.
After all, it IS frustrating to lose pn time when you are winning in material, but it IS an option, and you DID agree to the terms and conditions when you decided to play a timed game.
If the very reason you're behind is because you were moving quickly in the beginning of a game, the time your opponent spent deliberating is the very cause of the time pressure. Had they kept pace with you, they might have missed your mistakes and you might not be behind.