Chess is a Sport.

Yes, and so have 100+ countries. But the argument here is that these sports organizations and governing bodies are wrong, and that it was done with financial interests in mind. Other people have pointed out how the IOC, or any governing body, doesn't define what a sport is, and that whether or not chess is a sport depends on what the people think.

As for me, I could hardly care if you think chess is a sport or not. Call it whatever you want, it is literally just a label.

I agree. Because why would anyone want to call it what they prefer? Because there is a motive of some kind. The only way it could ever matter is if there was a financial incentive of some kind. Otherwise it's just words, or as you said, a label. That or ego.

In my opinion there is always a motive. So to me, I have to ask, why would anyone want to consider a board game a sport?

Let's look at what you've said and I think we can understand why you think we talk 'rubbish'

I'm not going to say "who is 'we'" again but seriously who is 'we'.

How would chess being recognised as a sport make the game more expensive to indulge in? That is completely false, and who is making money off us? Your points are increasinly becoming devoid of facts and logic and you are simply going into a heedless tangent.

Chess being virtually recognized as being a sport will in fact bring in more sponsors to the players who are struggling financially to dedicate their life to chess full-time.

"That's disregarding the ridiculouslness".... what are you talking about in general??

Clearly you are incapable of forming a discussion without lies and deciet hidden under your large sprinkle of prattle

I played against a National Master who didn't have sufficient use of his arms. He had assistance when moving some pieces, and when pressing the clock.

I don't remember his name, though. This was years ago.

But yes, physically disabled chess players do exist. And some of them are titled.

This is what happens when you say you’re leaving a conversation, but forget to turn off notifications. (Remedied 👍)

LeraiOg, darts is not physical exertion-based - it’s not deadlifting nor the 1600 meter - it’s a physical *technique*-based competitive activity, and therefore a sport (...barely one in my opinion, but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️) That’s why we in strength and conditioning can improve a dart player’s game. Shoulder mobility, balance, coordination, tricep work, etc.
Would you put your money on a dart player to (physically) move over 40 chess pieces to any spot on the board, or on a chess player to nail 3 triple 20s from regulation distance in a row?
Do you see the difference?
(And that’s just darts. Wait until we get to judo…)
 
But you guys have GOT to stop it with this respiration levels and calories-burned nonsense. Those from stress (good or bad) and those from exertion are two. different. things.
 
It was nice not having this conversation, and I’m going back to that. (Notifications are now off. Later 👋)
 
PS: The one question to which I really wish I had gotten an answer was ‘Why?’.
I adore chess, and it will tear your brain to beautiful shreds. I’m also totally content with it being a game.
But for those who - for WHATEVER reason - think it counts as a sport, why is that label SO important to you??? Do you not have other physical outlets? Have you been bullied for being unathletic? (If so, that’s way not cool.)
It doesn’t even have to be competitive if you don’t want. I don’t like sports 🤷‍♂️ I’m not competitive by nature. I just love to train and help others train. Just exercise. No winner; no loser - just you and your body.
Want help? My inbox is open 👍
But to choose the chess/sports hill as the one on which to die just really seems like a choice made out of desperation.
 
I’m off like a prom dress.

That may be because chess players don't train to play darts? They are two different sports bro.

Why? Because I'm that good.

P.S: next post gets the 101th post in this thread

If chess were a sport, the person acting as hands for a quadriplegic - performing the physical movements of the game - would get the medal, and the actual player would go home with jack 🤨

Also, this is entire topic is ludicrous... plus, the bodies are gonna do what makes them money anyway.

I just wish I knew why it's so important to those to whom it's so important. What is missing in your life that this adamance fills? That's the one part of this I'll admit to finding fascinating.

(This was from my last notification before I turned them off. So if some psychologist knows that last answer, msg me? 'Cause, if someone responds to me here, I'm not gonna know it. Thanks 🙏)

no ones said video games are only for kids.

There's a wide range of video games that are played, and many are suitable for different audiences, some for kids, some for adults, some for both. Video games are just that, VIDEO GAMES. They arent SPORTS, and just because theres a competitive scene for it, "Esports" doesn't make it a SPORT. you're just playing it at a higher level, but its still a VIDEO GAME. chess is a BOARD GAME. some people play it at a higher level, thats it.

that had nothing to do with what I said. Chess is a board game, it always has been.
The only reason people wanna call it a sport is because they want to make chess seem like something more than what it is, they don't want the passtime theyre so addicted to, to just be considered a board game, because that sounds lame to others from their perspective.

this is a pathetic topic. To sit there and actually try and claim that chess should be classed as a sport along with ACTUAL sports like football, rugby, tennis or marathons, is ridiculous. It's just a stain on chess. Stop focusing on branding it something its not, let people see it as a board game, a game of mental strategic battle.

Of course it is a sport.

Gimme a "C"

Gimme a "H"

Gimme a "E"

Gimme a "S"

Gimme a "S"

What's that spell?

You probably wont see this, but others might.

I think your main point is the most important, why do some people find it so important that chess be classified as a sport. What is the actual reason?

Your first sentence really settles the issue for most reasonable people. Chess is a mental pursuit, so people who are physically disabled can have others perform the chess moves for them. This difference is really what separates chess from sports. In sports, nobody else is allowed to perform the physical task for you. You have to do it. In chess (and probably a lot of other board games) you can have someone else perform the physical parts and you still get the credit for the result.

So, when doctors recommend that children play sports, they will be told: "But my child plays sports: he plays chess. Three hours a day ! He's an athlete !"...

I apologize for the joke, but I find it truly absurd that sitting thinking for hours with your back glued to the chair and your eyes on a chessboard could be considered "sport". Maybe for some people or for some Countries competition and sport are synonymous, but for me "sport" is a very specific concept. And sorry if I repeat it, but what characterizes it as a sport is the physical ability necessary to practice it. Tennis consists in hitting the ball with the racket and running on the court : to do this you need to have strength, coordination, agility, precision ; without these physical skills you cannot play tennis. Same for all other competitions we want to call sports.

I honestly cannot tell if you are making a joke or seriously suggesting that tennis is not a sport, but I would bet on the former.

Come on guys, let tennis speak for itself.

Nah, play bullet of 30 second hyper!

Stop waffling brother

You know where the money comes from to fund these multi-million dollar tournaments? It's definetely not from us.... It's from sponsors.

Anyone with half a brain would know that. I think you are either trolling or a very young child to make arguements that are not backed up by anything whatsoever.

I have analysed your previous posts and have concluded that you are only looking for attention,

Tóg go bog é

Lol I like that response! Well said.

In my opinion all sports are mind sports. They say golf is 90% mental, which is probably about right. But the best golfers, just like the best tennis players (or any other sport) endlessly practice the physical motions to gain even a slight advantage. I've never seen anyone practice the physical motions of moving chess pieces.

Interesting point about gender assignment. I suppose the thinking isn't that much different when it comes to believing chess is a sport. Gender used to be a physical attribute. Either XX or XY (with the obvious exceptions of genetic aberrations that don't clearly fall into either). Now people can simply feel they are a different gender (or feel chess is a sport) regardless of the physical requirements.