Chess isn't a sport

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I don't think so either. I'm sticking with the traditional definition and with the traditional idea of what the Olympics are all about.

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delcai007 wrote:

I don't think so either. I'm sticking with the traditional definition and with the traditional idea of what the Olympics are all about.

good! i see that we agree! The olympics used to include poetry. And they include billiard right now, not very physical sports, wouldn't you say? So, therefore, chess must be a sport based only on YOUR thoughts, not mine.

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No, we don't agree, but it's no big deal, And, yes, the Olympics included poetry at one time. I'm not seeing any statement of mine, or thoughts, that might give you the idea I think poetry is a sport.

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clearly we do, otherwise you wouldn't have made your previous post

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based on your opinion alone it is possible to prove that chess is a sport

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My post acknowledges the traditional definition of the word, "sport". You're confused.

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delcai007 wrote:

I don't think so either. I'm sticking with the traditional definition and with the traditional idea of what the Olympics are all about.

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no your post acknowledges the fact that the olympics (and by extension the IOC) can determine what is and is not a sport, thus chess is a sport.

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LOL

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I said no such thing.

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I quoted the Oxford dictionary, not even once the IOC.

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A large survey conducted on chess.com determined that 78% of people believe that chess is a sport. And while you may say that it is biased, it is not. The reason is that the population on chess.com is very well educated about chess, about the mental effort it requires, and about the similarities and differences from other sports. The general population has no idea how much thinking it takes to play chess, and thus their opinion is not shaped by facts, only feelings. When you combine this with the fact that the IOC and SportAccord (Both have lots of experience determining what is and is not a sport) say that yes, chess is a sport, this leads to a clear conclusion: Chess is a sport. Also, as I stated earlier, the Webster's Random House Dictionary defines a sport to be "diversion; recreation", which would include chess. This disproves both claims in your initial post:

1) All reputable dictionaries define a sport to be a game/competition/activity that requires physical exertion (The Webster's Random House Dictionary is most certainly reputable)

2) There is no valid argument that chess is a sport, I have been presenting a valid argument this entire time.

Thus penguinboy9 is incorrect.

This debate is closed.

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I hope we can all agree that penguinboy9's initial comment was completely false. And that we can also agree that his argument was self-contradicting.

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delcai007 wrote:

I quoted the Oxford dictionary, not even once the IOC.

no but you endorsed the authority of the IOC by citing the olympic games as a factor in determining whether something is a sport or not.

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Hardly.

The argument against calling it a "sport" is that it does not fit the traditional definition of that word.

But no one gets to decide that for others.

That includes you.

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hardly what?

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do you agree that penguinboy9's initial comment was false, and that his argument was self-contradicting?

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crystal0192 wrote:
delcai007 wrote:

I quoted the Oxford dictionary, not even once the IOC.

no but you endorsed the authority of the IOC by citing the olympic games as a factor in determining whether something is a sport or not.

I did not.

I'm beginning to think you're a lunatic.

I only said the question was often raised in connection with the Olympics. I did not say I thought, because I do not, that they are an authority on language.

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crystal0192 wrote:

do you agree that penguinboy9's initial comment was false, and that his argument was self-contradicting?

not at all

by the definition I use,

chess is not a sport