Chess isn't a sport

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brawl_stars_pro123
why is everyone saying a person wrote so many times
brawl_stars_pro123
I know
Penguinboy9
crystal0192 wrote:
Penguinboy9 wrote:
crystal0192 wrote:

Also about the IOC, just like courts in the US don't always represent the opinion of the majority, governing bodies interpreting definitions do not have to comply with the beliefs of the majority.

This is not the same thing in any way. There is a massive difference between something like morality, public safety, and various other things compared to something that would not have large implications on society. If a crime like murder were to be legalized, it would be terrible and cause massive amounts of damage to society and the wellbeing of many people in the world. If a board game was not a sport, it would not cause damage that can be compared to what would be caused because of that. There would be little to none.

https://nextlevelchess.com/is-chess-a-sport/ You are wrong chess not being a sport would have impacts.

This means nothing. That article talked about funding for chess organizations which is little either way and is not comparable to the court. Even if the funding from governments were to be removed, people would still be happy to donate. For example in 2022, FIDE received most of its funding from rights to the world chess championship (which FIDE manages), the chess olympiad (which FIDE manages), sponsorships, and donations: https://www.fide.com/92nd-fide-general-assembly-results-and-decisions/. Google, alone, has donated $4,000,000 to Fide and has lobbied $16,000,000: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/google-inc/summary?id=D000022008. This shows that even if some organizations no longer received funding from the government, the biggest one would still receive almost all of its funding and the others may potentially too.

w8a2ndtime
Sorry if this has been stated before, but if chess is a sport, then what about other board game? Are card games (like poker) a sport? What about speech and debate tournaments? Are those sports? Are we going to see Debate and Poker in the Olympics?

These aren’t rhetorical questions, I’m genuinely interested in the answers.
crystal0192

Just because a definition isn't the most widely accepted doesn't mean its wrong, words ca have many different meanings, and language is complex and nuanced. Therefore, it follows that chess is a sport, because it meets one of the widely accepted definitions.

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/faq/sports-programme-and-results/what-are-the-conditions-required-for-a-sport-to-be-recognised-by-the-ioc

crystal0192

The IOC recognizes FIDE as the governing body of the SPORT of chess.

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/recognised-international-federations/world-chess-federation

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/recognised-international-federations

crystal0192
w8a2ndtime wrote:
Sorry if this has been stated before, but if chess is a sport, then what about other board game? Are card games (like poker) a sport? What about speech and debate tournaments? Are those sports? Are we going to see Debate and Poker in the Olympics?
These aren’t rhetorical questions, I’m genuinely interested in the answers.

Poker relies heavily on chance, therefore it is not a sport. Although bridge is a sport. I'm not sure about Speech and Debate.

jcidus

Chess is just a game like Parcheesi or Pinnacle, as Fabiano Caruana used to say, chess is meaningless

crystal0192

What makes it just a game?

Pho_Lover

Chess is a game, for something to be a sport it has to be competitive and there needs to be non-brain muscle groups you train to play better, while the brain is a muscle, every sport on earth requires you to train it vigorously, and non-sports also train your brain, you can train your brain in order to pass a history test, but the test is in no way a sport. Chess is competitive, so it checks the first box, but as for the non-brain muscle group part... no. While many great chess players do things such as play tennis, swim, or lift weights, they are simply trying to achieve overall fitness to boost brain activity, which means they are training the brain. The workouts that chess players do all relate to brain health. Therefore, chess cannot be a sport as there is no specific muscle group besides the brain that it targets

cutethings123

chess is a sport. It requires your brain,your brain is physical part of your body,is it not?

crystal0192

What is your source for that definition, don't be offended, but I can't take your word for it.

crystal0192
crystal0192 wrote:

What is your source for that definition, don't be offended, but I can't take your word for it.

To be clear, I was talking to Pho_Lover

Pho_Lover
cutethings123 wrote:

chess is a sport. It requires your brain,your brain is physical part of your body,is it not?

Yes, but literally everything you do requires your brain, waking up, sleeping, eating, chess exerts your brain, but so does uno, so does monopoly, so does a history test.

Abtectous
Chess is considered a sport by many. There is no exact definition, as badly as you may want it to not be true, definitions and perspective vary from person to person. If somebody considers chess a sport, then it’s a sport to them. If you think it’s not then it’s not, for you. We don’t live in a world where there is a godly book that decides what the “true” definition of a word is. There is no point in quoting a dictionary, for a dictionary was made by people, whom have their own interpretation of words.
crystal0192

thats why there is a definition that doesn't just talk about that. did you click the links I posted?

Pho_Lover
crystal0192 wrote:

What is your source for that definition, don't be offended, but I can't take your word for it.

It works because every activity accepted as a sport follows those guidelines, and non-sports don't

crystal0192

whta about chess?

Pho_Lover

Chess doesn't work, a sport needs physical activity, and while mental activity relates to physical activity, only mental activity is required.

Here's the argument that can put this to rest: The best chess "player" on earth is a computer, it has no arms, legs, nothing. All it is is a big brain, and yet it is the best at chess compared to any human regardless of their fitness. No sport could ever be dominated by a tiny microchip the way chess is.

crystal0192

You can't start a proof assuming what you are proving is true. You have to clearly show that there is only ONE definition of sport, that every single other relevant definition is wrong, and then show that chess does not meet that definition. You must include sources to prove your point. Convince me and everyone else that chess isn't a sport.