Chess rating system

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orangehonda
nesophilia wrote:

I I can't make any sense out of this forum non of the dates follow in a sequential pattern with comments from as long ago as 2007 still posted.

I posed a question some days ago and not only has no one offered me an answer but I can't even find the question i asked among all the jumbled up dates.


The latest responses are still at the end -- but that's correct, the mods are either too inexperienced or too dumb to have locked a topic like this long ago.  It's just a junkyard of comments now -- there's no use posting questions in it.

xqsme

Some great pics evolving though!! excuse troll... are those penguins  bye the bye ?

JojoJohn
mznor wrote:

In playing my first game on Chess.com, I received a rating of 1200, before I played. Why, and how was that arrived at?


The same thing happend for me also only for live chess. But number of games played and al other things are same as previous

zingrat
viswanathan wrote:
turtle wrote: i am starting to understand the rating system, but how do you determine points during a game? are certain peices worth different points? 

turtle, the general points system followed is as follows:

pawn - 1pt.

knight/bishop - 3pts.

rook - 5pts.

queen - 10pts.

of course points are not everything... the position of your piece also matters.. for example you might not mind losing a bishop or rook to save a pawn on the 7th row.. and points dont have any bearing on the game result.. it is just a basic framework to help beginners understand the value of different pieces


WRONG! queen is 9 points dumbo!

Puchiko

It depends on whom you ask, different systems assign different values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_piece_relative_value

Many consider the queen to be worth two rooks, hence 10 (2x5=10). Such people include, according to that article, GM Evans, Stauton, and world champion Euwe. Do you consider them to be "dumbos"?

IsidoreN
viswanathan wrote:
turtle wrote: i am starting to understand the rating system, but how do you determine points during a game? are certain peices worth different points? 

turtle, the general points system followed is as follows:

pawn - 1pt.

knight/bishop - 3pts.

rook - 5pts.

queen - 10pts.

of course points are not everything... the position of your piece also matters.. for example you might not mind losing a bishop or rook to save a pawn on the 7th row.. and points dont have any bearing on the game result.. it is just a basic framework to help beginners understand the value of different pieces


RevLarry

My USFC rating was 1900, @ chesscorner it was 2037, @Chessknot it is 1500, @ chess.com I think im 1600.  All rating systems can't be the same.  I realize I may not try as hard as I do against a GM but to drop 4-500 points?  I don't understand it.

RevLarry

Just think of ratings as odds. Like he is favoured by 200 pts.

ryan5376

it makes it more fair starting at 1200 because if your a GM you wouldnt want to be starting at 1000 or 900

MAttos_12
ozshmbal wrote:
Ratings -- a measuring stick -- that's it  When I had a rating below 2000 I would challenge a player above that level and get a pathetic message like 'Oops! this player doesn't play anyone below 2000.  You know why!  Because they're scared of losing their precious little rating points.  They would be better off selling insurance, there is more security doing that.  Oops is a jellyfish burp!

Perhaps some better rated players want to hold on to their point, but to be honest playing people with much lower rating then you can just be dull.  Its like playing someone at squash who struggles to hit the wall and has mastered hitting the cealing, just a waste of time for both players really.. 

Longfield

halaaa!

any1 wanna play????

skogli

The pawn count system is not perfect.

The value for all pices changes all the time, it all depends on the current position.

jaseschreiber

I am just new here and am playing games the way I used to play them with my friends on a normal board. As time progresses I will look at playing to the clock and also other game styles. So far so good great site and good to be playing again.Thanks, J.S

orangehonda

Luckily that advice will never be followed 100% of the time.  The system really takes care of itself.  The players most in need of strong opposition can't help but find it while both the desire and need to face strong opposition decline as a player improves (i.e. as book study and analysis takes over).

LATIFSA

I do agree with Joeyson. Ratings don't matter.Chess is a silent music,as much a mustery as our mind, it makes  me happy,no mattar I lose or win.

orangehonda

I like them because it helps me gauge my improvement and it's easier to communicate between players how proficient someone is in general.

Also of course for pairing purposes, otherwise at a tournament it would be too random... unless it's a smaller 1 section weekend swiss or something.

panandh

There is no use for me playing against a strong player (maybe 500 point above mine) or weak player (500 points below). I will not able to learn anything.

The ratings helps to play against equal strength player. sometime because of the style of play I may win or my opponent may win. This type of game provides real opportunity to learn the chess. Interesting positions will be arising out of it. We can analyze and improve our game.

P. Anandh

skogli
Fezzik wrote:

The idea is to play someone who can beat you ~2/3 of the time. That would be someone ~200 higher than you.


 Probably a good idea, I'll give it a try.

Deranged
Fezzik wrote:

The idea is to play someone who can beat you ~2/3 of the time. That would be someone ~200 higher than you.


Nah. I've played lots of different rated opponents, and I find that the best way to get my rating up as high as possible is to play people about 350-400 points below me. That way, I win +2 per game and if I lose, I lose -15 but I very rarely lose so I usually get higher that way.

Cystem_Phailure
Deranged wrote:
Fezzik wrote:

The idea is to play someone who can beat you ~2/3 of the time. That would be someone ~200 higher than you.


Nah. I've played lots of different rated opponents, and I find that the best way to get my rating up as high as possible is to play people about 350-400 points below me.


I think most of these people having been talking about the best way to improve their chess ability, not just their rating.  If the only thing you care about is getting your rating up as high as possible, your best method is to cheat.