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With the recent hype of Alpha Zero, and Leela Zero in the world of chess, there have been a few questions that I haven't been able to shake, involving the statistics for chess players.  Finding published material on chess statistics has been difficult, and I was wondering if Chess.com would be willing to publish some of them.

Here are some of my questions:

In the Chess.com system, on average, what Standard rating does a player have before his bullet and blitz ratings begin to approach his standard rating?  As you know, peoples ratings tend to differ, and be somewhat spread out between time controls.  I want to set a goal for myself for getting better at blitz and bullet time controls, and think that a nice standard and goal would be one set by other players.  GMs and IMs seem to have speed chess ratings much closer to or even higher than their Standard ratings.  Studying the rate of change of ratings based on time control would be very fun to do.

Can you think of any other useful/educational statistics?

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Shponglanator wrote:

With the recent hype of Alpha Zero, and Leela Zero in the world of chess, there have been a few questions that I haven't been able to shake, involving the statistics for chess players.  Finding published material on chess statistics has been difficult, and I was wondering if Chess.com would be willing to publish some of them.

Here are some of my questions:

In the Chess.com system, on average, what Standard rating does a player have before his bullet and blitz ratings begin to approach his standard rating?  As you know, peoples ratings tend to differ, and be somewhat spread out between time controls.  I want to set a goal for myself for getting better at blitz and bullet time controls, and think that a nice standard and goal would be one set by other players.  GMs and IMs seem to have speed chess ratings much closer to or even higher than their Standard ratings.  Studying the rate of change of ratings based on time control would be very fun to do.

 

Can you think of any other useful/educational statistics?

 

When you say "standard", do you mean "rapid" online (which used to be called "standard") or do you mean over the board slow chess with a minimum time control in tournaments ratings?

 

If you mean the latter, there is no direct connection between the live chess ratings here and any over the board ratings anywhere. I have never seen any study suggesting that players live chess ratings gradually approach their over the board ratings.   There have been surveys comparing live chess ratings to over the board FIDE and USCF ratings but those are based on very limited self reported data and they do not begin to have enough data to approach your question (of when blitz and bullet ratings begin to approach over the board ratings.)

 

If you mean rapid chess online, far fewer people play rapid time controls online often because they get upset trying to decide if they are waiting ten minutes for a move from player who is actively thinking (or if they have just gotten up and walked away) and because players with bad connections are forced to use them (standard time controls) and spend half the game connecting and reconnecting.

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I am implying that Bullet chess ratings could potentially be viewed as a function of slower (standard) time control ratings, say, after you achieve a rating of 1700 in slower time controls, your Bullet ratings begin to accelerate towards your standard rating.  I am wondering if it is 1700, because that is about what it seems to be here on this website.  I am not positive as to how strong of a correlation there is between skill and speed, but it is most certainly there.