Chess title is harder to get than to be a doctor or lawyer
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A chess title should be prestigious and not something that everyone can earn. You can still enjoy the game and be encouraged to keep playing without titles being easier to obtain
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"Chess title is harder to get than to be a doctor or lawyer"
++ No. You can compare university student to CM, BSc. to FM, MSc. to IM, and PhD. to GM.
"They (FIDE) should lower the standards of getting a title in chess"
FIDE has titles for the lower rating band: ACM, AFM, AIM, AGM.
https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/B11FOATitlesForLowerRatingBand
Jun 25, 2024
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I don’t see the point. Chess already artificially labels everyone with an Elo ranking. Is there something tangible not having a title is preventing you from doing?
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A title is for life. Even if your rating later drops, you keep enjoying the perks of the title.
Jun 25, 2024
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tygxc wrote:
@1
"Chess title is harder to get than to be a doctor or lawyer"
++ No. You can compare university student to CM, BSc. to FM, MSc. to IM, and PhD. to GM.
"They (FIDE) should lower the standards of getting a title in chess"
FIDE has titles for the lower rating band: ACM, AFM, AIM, AGM.
https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/B11FOATitlesForLowerRatingBand
what does ACM, AFM, AIM, AGM stand for
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Arena CM, FM, IM, GM, see the link provided.
Jun 26, 2024
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okay, so why in your countries have only few GMs, IMs, FMs, CMs compare to the number of doctors and other professionals, and why in the whole world only 2k+ are GMs, where too many people plays chess
How many people become lawyers before the age of 15? How many people become a GM before the age of 15?
It takes many more years of education and life experiences and it takes many more skill sets to become a doctor or lawyer.
Surely becoming a doctor or lawyer is more difficult than getting a chess title. Just start chess when you are a child and in five years with half of the effort for becoming a doctor you’ll get your master or even grandmaster title
If you are a child it's much easier to become a GM than a doctor or lawyer (legal issues aside).
If you start as an adult, then yes, getting a GM title is harder than becoming a doctor or lawyer.
That is exactly what I said. There are so many children in the world today who have becoming a Fide Master by the age of 10 and many who reach IM and GM level by the age of 13 and they go to school and play other games too! As an adult it is impossible to become IM and GM and if you are not a strong club player by the age of 18 you may never become even an FM. Chess is extremely easy for chidren and extremely difficult for adults to master
MOKMAFIH wrote:
Why having a chess title is hard to get than to getting a professional title like doctor, lawyer and others? They (FIDE) should lower the standards of getting a title in chess, so players will enjoy and encourage to continue.
No they should encourage getting players to play chess despite not having a title instead of worrying about getting onw
If it was not easy they could not become GM by the age of 12
SpanishStallion wrote:
If it was not easy they could not become GM by the age of 12
Nah it is even hard for the 12 year old to do that cause they have to be like 3000+ blitz or something
MOKMAFIH wrote:
Why having a chess title is hard to get than to getting a professional title like doctor, lawyer and others? They (FIDE) should lower the standards of getting a title in chess, so players will enjoy and encourage to continue.
Just so that this doesn't turn into why there are women's titles with lower ratings, the resident bunny presents you with:
*Drum roll*
MM - Mok Master, a title just for you.
Next steps, getting FIDE to recognise it. Shouldn't be that hard. We'll get the lawyers you talked about on board and then the doctors when FIDE reads the lawsuit docs. Laughing is contagious and another pandemic might result.
The community can thank the bunny later. There is important work at hand.
Make Mok Mok Master!
chesssblackbelt wrote:
SpanishStallion wrote:
If it was not easy they could not become GM by the age of 12
I think there's only ever been 1 person who has been GM at 12
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_prodigy
Jun 26, 2024
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SpanishStallion wrote:
If it was not easy they could not become GM by the age of 12
Easy in terms of brain plasticity and learning new concepts quickly but it still requires a lot of effort to solidify their skills.
chesssblackbelt wrote:
Think about it this way, if you wanted to become a lawyer you could. If you wanted to become a GM you can't
The thing is, you don't start your way to becoming a lawyer in university. You start in school or pre-school by learning to read and write. (You surely cannot become a lawyer if you don't know how to write.) So if you start early with chess and study every day, it shouldn't be harder than any other subject to become a master.
SpanishStallion wrote:
Chess is extremely easy for chidren and extremely difficult for adults to master
Chess is difficult for children to master, too.
The majority of young players who aspire to be titled will never make it. Such is the nature of the game.
We hear about child prodigies, sure - but these are the exception, not the norm ...
Why having a chess title is hard to get than to getting a professional title like doctor, lawyer and others? They (FIDE) should lower the standards of getting a title in chess, so players will enjoy and encourage to continue.