i wonder how good the world would be if elroch and optimissed didnt waste their time and energy arguing over pointless topics
I half agree!
Infinitesimal impact on the world but infinity impact on this Forum. 
Throughout this thread, some have mistakenly considered extremely large finite numbers to be the equivalent of infinity....."for all practical purposes". This is a mistake. No matter how large a finite number is, it is not the equivalent of infinity....or even close.... period. And any logic or conclusions that follow that assumption are false.
You don't get any large finite numbers, they're all completely miniscule compared with practically all the rest. Come to that you don't get any large infinite numbers either.
i wonder how good the world would be if elroch and optimissed didnt waste their time and energy arguing over pointless topics
I half agree!
Infinitesimal impact on the world but infinity impact on this Forum.
The main problem is the circularity and repetition of disagreements. I'm quite optimistic but not holding my breath.
You don't get any large finite numbers, they're all completely miniscule compared with practically all the rest. Come to that you don't get any large infinite numbers either.
"Minuscule" is one of the most commonly misspelled words in our language. How did spell check not catch that?
im just pointing out the almost funny sadness of it all... taking 5 seconds to do so is not equivalent to you guys writing essays also that was pretty funny elroch i cant lie
I am worried about all these schools nowadays where 2-3 paragraphs are given credit as an "essay" .
Wow
@4908
"It's just a theorem, not a proven fact."
++ It is the first mathematical theorem proven by a combination of humans and computers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_color_theorem
Weakly solving chess should be done by a similar tandem
of good assistants with the latest computers during 5 years.
@4921
"At this stage all the unevaluated positions must be draws."
++ Think again. 1 g4 e5 2 f4 is no draw.
@4919
"What does this have to do with the solvability of chess? Different rules, fewer possible moves."
++ It proves that the number of relevant positions 10^17 to weakly solve Chess
can be much lower than the number of legal positions 10^44.
@4928
"2-3 paragraphs are given credit as an "essay""
++ A short post is not understood, a long post is not read.
@4928
"2-3 paragraphs are given credit as an "essay""
++ A short post is not understood, a long post is not read.
Short and long are subjective. These are not absolutes any more than 10^17 is an absolute .
Chess is better not solved
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@4935
"These are not absolutes any more than 10^17 is an absolute"
++ If anybody has an argument why it should be 10^18 or 10^16 I am all ear.
You don't get any large finite numbers, they're all completely miniscule compared with practically all the rest. Come to that you don't get any large infinite numbers either.
"Minuscule" is one of the most commonly misspelled words in our language. How did spell check not catch that?
Indeed. Red face.
I always ignore the spell check because it works in Americanese.
i wonder how good the world would be if elroch and optimissed didnt waste their time and energy arguing over pointless topics
I half agree!
Infinitesimal impact on the world but infinity impact on this Forum.
The main problem is the circularity and repetition of disagreements. I'm quite optimistic but not holding my breath.
This is true and should be repeated ad nauseum.
[ok, a tad of irony there].
You don't get any large finite numbers, they're all completely miniscule compared with practically all the rest. Come to that you don't get any large infinite numbers either.
"Minuscule" is one of the most commonly misspelled words in our language. How did spell check not catch that?
It's because miniscule is such a prevalent mis-spelling that it has become border-line accepted and may have been programmed into some spell-checkers.
It's always funny to watch people complain about threads they have the ability to skip by. Do you habitually punish yourself? It takes a certain lack of self awareness.
Provide some meaningful content of your own...bonus points if it is actually chess related.
im just pointing out the almost funny sadness of it all... taking 5 seconds to do so is not equivalent to you guys writing essays also that was pretty funny elroch i cant lie
Yes, much sadder, because you're objecting to how people choose their entertainment. Your entertainment is objecting to others'.
@4935
"These are not absolutes any more than 10^17 is an absolute"
++ If anybody has an argument why it should be 10^18 or 10^16 I am all ear.
You could easily argue for 10^18 or 10^19 yourself just by not systematically dropping the mantissa in each of your reductions, e.g. not rendering Tromp's estimate of 4.85304e+44 +- 3.9004e+42 basic rules positions as 10^44. You don't need someone else to do it (and in any case you've comprehensively proved you're all deaf ear.)
Wouldn't say anything about reality either way.
You know chess will be solved.
It definitely will be.
We see all these movies about cyber technology.
Maybe, we'll develop super computer intellects and actually solve chess.
It definitely won't be.