Maybe the instine buda,Elon on chess=useless
Chess will never be solved, here's why

@9448
"current analysis INDICATES that g4 loses"
++ That are weasel words. It either loses, draws, or wins. In this case 1 g4? loses.
That is also the lingo of Fischer and Caruana for other positions: 'it loses by force'.
Losing by force may take 60 moves, but is inevitable.
bro calls the difference between an analysis and a full proof "weasel words"
The weasel words: "all of the posts in this forum strongly suggest that @tygxc doesn't know what it means to solve a game"
The elite GM version: "@tygxc definitely doesn't know what it means to solve a game"

I would imagine that even if computers make a way to play with 100% accuracy, then the worst case scenario would be that Chess is replaced by Chess960, seeing as for computers to solve that, they would effectively need to solve Chess Nine hundred and sixty times. The best case scenario is that computer vs. computer Chess is nullified, but human Chess is still playable. Currently, even the 3200 bot (which I know isn't the best in the world) can still get hung up in certain positions.
Chess is not infinite
For practical purposes it can be regarded as that.
Why is it practical to regard something as something it is not?
Computers will never be perfect. They will make a mistake eventually even if they can supposedly play perfectly. Furthermore, chess is a human game. Humans do not posses a data bank that can hold the information necessary to always play chess perfectly. Nothing in this world is perfect and nothing ever will be.

If a chess bot knew every possible continuation of a game of chess, wouldn't it be able to play perfectly? I suppose it both would and wouldn't. The reason I say that, is it would make the best move every time, but that might not have the best results--If you play as black against the 3200 bot, and set up a fool's mate, it likely wouldn't be able to mate because it didn't think that you would actually make such a bad move, so it blocked its queen with, say a knight, because that was the 'best move'

"engines that still improve with every single release"
++ For a given time per move they make fewer and fewer errors.
Now at 5 days/move and jockeyed by an ICCF (grand)master they have reached 0 error.
"The human factor is all but meaningless in ICCF play at this point." ++ No it is very important.
"All they are doing is running multiple engines"
++ You are wrong. Sign up for an ICCF World Championship qualifier and try to qualify.
"they are basically administrative assistants"++ They are ICCF (grand)masters for a reason.
They play the ICCF World Championship Finals because they qualified.
The actual explanation for your 104 draws is that engine play has tightened up considerably post-machine-learning, and human GMs can no longer find "suggestions" to good lines for engines anymore. Engine evaluations with a hidden disaster on the horizon are disappearing over time. But both engines and human GMs are *far* from reaching perfect play...what engines have reached, however, is a plateau where human GMs can no longer do anything but follow along with great difficulty. You equate this with perfect play, but it's just the threshold where human beings leave the equation in terms of determining what perfect play looks like.
Human beings have played some paltry trillions of games of chess (and certainly not multiple trillions of unique games). Engines are already set to surpass this if they have not already, yet still will have only played about 1 position out of every 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 unique positions (i.e. 10^13 vs. 10^43).

I would imagine that even if computers make a way to play with 100% accuracy, then the worst case scenario would be that Chess is replaced by Chess960, seeing as for computers to solve that, they would effectively need to solve Chess Nine hundred and sixty times. The best case scenario is that computer vs. computer Chess is nullified, but human Chess is still playable. Currently, even the 3200 bot (which I know isn't the best in the world) can still get hung up in certain positions.
100% Accuracy is not that at all. The current measure for "Accuracy" is derived from human and engine play, which are both imperfect. Ergo, 100% accuracy by a faulty measurement/methodology means nothing in terms of solving chess.

@9459
"not a single person agrees with you"
++ Their fault, not mine. I try to patiently explain as clearly as I can, but that is all I can do.
This helps your delusion of being a misunderstood genius, and yes, it seems to be all you can do. It's an exhausting way of propping up one's ego. Highly inefficient in that regard.

I would imagine that even if computers make a way to play with 100% accuracy, then the worst case scenario would be that Chess is replaced by Chess960, seeing as for computers to solve that, they would effectively need to solve Chess Nine hundred and sixty times. The best case scenario is that computer vs. computer Chess is nullified, but human Chess is still playable. Currently, even the 3200 bot (which I know isn't the best in the world) can still get hung up in certain positions.
Yes, albeit Fischer random is not chess, it is gambling - some setups are draw and some are winning. You depend on a draw. More fair would be if the pawns are placed on their origin positions and then white, as a representative of the challenging army, put first piece of his choice wherever he likes on his back rank followed by the black with a piece of his choice, then white again and so on until all pieces are set. In this case deploying the pieces would be the challenge and part of the strategy of its own while in essence you still have got 960.

So tygxc, you really think you know more about proof than the mathematicians i talked to, and all the math majors i talked to, and at this point the dozens of other people that i've shown your ignorance to?

We know EXACTLY what you are trying to explain tygxc.
and we all know how you are wrong. none of us take what you say seriously.
however, you have been consistently failing to understand what people are saying to you. easy evidence of this is you completely misinterpreting the wiles argument. everyone else knew what i was referring to, yet you interpreted it as soemthing that literally happened.

from me:
"Once 7 men are reached castling rights are forfeited. I never heard of such a rule."
from tygxc - he concedes:
"++ It is no rule, it is a practical observation."
In other words its not so.
There is no 'forfeit'. Its a falsehood that there is.
So even with 7 men its not 'solved' - an option of the game was ignored.
Stands.
And also stands: there's no 'weakly solved'.
tyg having fun with that phrase ...
tyg could claim that Julius Caesar was actually Bill Gates because tyg 'weakly solved' it.

i provided actual proofs disproving your claims that everyone else on this thread understood and agreed with. not only that, but i showed my proof to other math majors and they all took my side. you really think you are the special one?
tyg is wrong - but he is 'special' in that he demonstrates how to attempt to be 'special' in a polite way.
He spouts his nonsense - but its 'all dressed up'.
Its 'logic-denial' but he does it better than the science deniers and much much better than 'the arrogant guy' (whose name begins with 'O'.)
He's enjoying defending weak positions that are crassly illogical.
And for years now.
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Here's his post from over 9000 posts ago. In January 2022.
The second post of this forum.
His statement about '5 years' is false even though he's trying to dress it up with analogies.
But he still got 134 thumbs up.
" tygxc 56 #2
Has chess been solved? No
Can chess be solved? Yes, it takes 5 years on cloud engines.
Will chess be solved? Maybe, it depends on somebody paying 5 million $ for the cloud engines and the human assistants during 5 years.
Have humans walked on Mars? No
Can humans walk on Mars? Yes
Will humans walk on Mars? Maybe, it depends on somebody paying billions of $ to build and launch a spacecraft."
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All of his posts since then have been attempts to claim the same invalid thing with various auxiliary claims also invalid - for example that chess is a draw with best play. Its not proven and might never be.
Some things really are proven.
Like that there can't be any greatest possible prime number.
There's no such thing.
And the proof that there isn't is very neat.
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But tyg has courage.
He doesn't care much if at all if nobody agrees with him.
That shows some strength of character.
But does he believe his own nonsense?
I suggest No. He doesn't.
He's playing with semantics. But in a somewhat sophisticated way.
Like movies about reverse time travel can be 'popular' because they're well made.
Wait long squash got muted
Sadness
yeah, I miss his nonsense tbh. tygxc's nonsense is not as interesting
could you give me some recommendations for long squash moments?