Chess will never be solved, here's why

Dang it playafar is redirecting he conversation again

why do you not play chess and only troll on forums !!!!?!???!!!!!!

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I don't have any power your right about that but neither do you that means I can be more annoying than you hehehehehe

@Tytxc a draw doesn't mean perfect play and zero innnaccuracies only means the engine agreed with that move I'll wait till a kings gambit comes up when maybe I'll consider that chess is a draw but we need drawable openings that are slightly worse or better for both sides but still drawable

Not equal positions cause an equal position would 100% be a draw

BC you just blew it. Again. Admitting that I'm 'annoying' you.
And without even trying to!
I've now quoted your post so you can't delete it.
Apparently tygxc was waiting for you two to stop trolling so he could continue with the forum subject.

Ok Boomer

@9966

"weakly solving is poor terminology"
++ That is the terminology used in this field of mathematics.

"Partial solving looks a little better." ++ Schaeffer solved Checkers weakly, not 'partially'.

"calls checkmate that's real solving" ++ It is reaching a 7-men endgame table base draw or a prior 3-fold repetition. Chess is a draw.

"g4 does not lose" ++ It does, I showed how.

"I don't think its the worst move either." ++ It is the worst move, also according to AlphaZero.

"1) Na3 is bottom ranked on some lists. But I think 1) Nh3 could be worse."
++ No, all white first moves except 1 g4? are fit to draw.

"1) g4 - the Grob opening can be a weapon against somebody who doesn't know"
++ 1 g4? is a mistake, but at lower levels and/or in fast time controls it does not matter who makes the first mistake, only who makes the last mistake.

Hi @tygxc !
You see my post #9966?
You're doing all right.
Taking on all comers!
Its kind of admirable.
Maybe you'll state whether 1) g4 loses the most against computers and how it does with computer against computer.
I haven't looked it up yet.
But maybe you've done the research.
Alpha Zero says its worst?
Well lets see what the net says.

Playafar

To be clear your the only one annoyed here I have had worse trolls than you

You just think you have power to annoy people you don't just get over yourself go enjoy a board game why would I be annoyed you arnt englishing correctly

And answer my question why do you not play chess only troll on forums

BC - this time I'll skip your post Completely.
Lol!
Its too late. You've already admitted you're 'annoyed'.
Too late BC.

Nah I didn't your just missreading the post

You can continue trolling tho I don't mind

It only exposes yourself more and more

@9969

"a draw doesn't mean perfect play" ++ But 106 draws out of 106 games does.

"zero innnaccuracies only means the engine agreed" ++ I do not count errors by engine evaluation, I count errors by observing final results: 106 draws out of 106 games.

"I'll wait till a kings gambit comes up"
++ Nobody is foolish enough to play King's Gambit in a the ICCF World Championship Finals.

"we need drawable openings that are slightly worse" ++ The ICCF (grand)masters do not choose openings to entertain you, they play openings to become the World Champion.
If you are interested in slightly unbalanced openings, then look at TCEC,
where they impose chosen openings on engines.

"an equal position would 100% be a draw" ++ The initial position is equal and now 100% draw.

This page has 1) g4 doing worst against an h5 reply.
But winning against at least three black replies.
Even against d5.
https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=2&n=333&ms=g4&ns=333tygxc I couldn't find anything on the net yet as to how 1) g4 does with computers.

Again you need to prove that it is a draw in slightly worse or better positions if it is "dead equal" you will just get confirmation bias you need a spectrum

Look 105/105 draws doesnt mean anything that is all it is it doesn't mean they have solved anything it means they drew that means they might be close to solving chess but it is not solved yet

Just close to being solved

All the openings you said they played were all drawish

It does not mean the game is a draw it means the openings they played is a draw

If you can't prove chess is a draw in slightly worse but EQUAL positions then chess isn't a draw

They haven't proved that yet it is just statistics chess might be a draw but not proven we need more games

tygxc I imagine there are openings that top GM's Never play.
Maybe there's a list.
Anyway - lots to talk about here.
Whether the forum topic or other chess things or other things.
Doesn't look like BC and the other new guy are going to shut up anybody up at all. Nor succeed in 'protecting' anybody.
Did BC post just now? Should I scroll up? I don't think so.

Womp womp everyone playerafar is such a 🤓 am I right 😏

Exactly i bet I could play 106 draws doesn't mean I played well though

@9980

"you need to prove that it is a draw in slightly worse or better positions"
++ No, the initial position is a draw.

"close to solving chess but it is not solved yet"
++ The 106 ICCF WC draws mean that Chess is ultra-weakly solved and the game-theoretic value of the initial position is a draw.
The 106 ICCF WC draws do not yet mean Chess is weakly solved, as they have not yet exhausted all reasonable white attempts to win. The 106 ICCF WC draws are a subset of the weak solution.

"the openings you said they played were all drawish"
++ White tries to win, black tries to draw. Black succeeds, white fails.

"it means the openings they played is a draw"
++ They play the openings they believe give them the best chance to win.
Catalan, Nimzovich Indian Defense, Najdorf... are not drawish openings.

What about the least chance to win instead of the most ? But still a draw

@9981

"If you can't prove chess is a draw in slightly worse but EQUAL positions then chess isn't a draw"
++ Chess starts from the initial position and that is an equal position.

"we need more games" ++ There are still 30 ongoing games.