Chess will never be solved, here's why

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M1m1c15
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morphy1001
M1m1c15 wrote:
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Chess is the original War game from India around 2500 years back.

unlike other games a variety of differentiated pieces in play all move in different ways unlike for example draughts or checkers.

a simple mathematical calculation will tell you how huge are the possible variations in moves.

and by the way mastery of chess is mastery of the endgame where 56. E4 is a win and 56. E5 is a loss. Most chess.com players will easily lose a win game in the endgame!!

A chess engine or computer can calculate maybe 25 moves ahead a good human only 6 or 8 that's why Deep Blue could win against the world champion.

Chess is truth . It's impossible to fake your result in the chess board no matter how much you bluff or bluster.

finally Paul Murphy on chess

to play Chess, is the sign of a Gentleman

To play chess Well, is the sign of a WASTED LIFE!!!

Chess is a very good game but,  should be kept in its place. NOT the be all and end all of the Universe!!

Cheers

 "Morphy,1001" .....

playerafar

I like @morphy1001 's post.
Regarding the top levels of chess players - some have handled it well - others have not.
Euwe - Bottvinnik - Lasker.  They all did not seem to let the game beat them.
Fischer didn't do so well.
But maybe - a lot of that has to with things beyond chess - not the game itself.  

playerafar

"Chess is the original War game from India around 2500 years back."

Yes - chess had predecessors in India. 
One of them was called Chatturanga I believe.
And could the idea of pawns being promoted in 'afterlife' be connected with 'reincarnation' beliefs in that part of the world ?
Just remarking there might be a connection there.

morphy1001

I am related to Fischer!?

My view on promotion, a loyal footsoldier can become a fieldmarshal....

Good choice I think of top players not obsessed, Mikhail is the "Russian doyen" an AI Research establishment director in real life, chess is quite correctly very important to Russia (not related to the war, please try and forget for a moment). It's like music an unique international language currency and fellowship similar to the scientific community.

playerafar

Bottvinnik isn't the strongest player ever.
But he may be the Greatest.
When you consider the scope and magnitude of his achievements -
both inside chess and outside chess -
and what his chess career might have looked like if there hadn't been this 'obstacle' called World War II. 

morphy1001

No. Please can I repeat vigorously. Life does not imitate chess it's a game life is real. Sort of.

Take the tip from Morphy. Or beat him at chess....

playerafar

There's even a theory that every chess game would end in a draw if nobody makes a mistake.
That's never been proven and might never be proven ...
(want it Disproven right away?  Lol !  Somebody doesn't make a mistake but they lose on the Clock !  happy.png )

morphy1001

No such things as mistakes in general

it's like psychometric texting everyone has their own style.

morphy1001

Testing.

playerafar
morphy1001 wrote:

No such things as mistakes in general

it's like psychometric texting everyone has their own style.

What ??  No 'mistakes' in chess ??
You walk into mate in one and didn't have to?
That's 'style'?
Well its certainly 'style' on a way to look at it.  

morphy1001

In general.

NOT about silly errors

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playerafar
morphy1001 wrote:

In general.

NOT about silly errors

A gigantic portion of errors are 'blunders'.  'Silly' errors.
Anyway - my point continues to stand.
The theory that 'the game will end in a draw if nobody makes a mistake' can be disproven fast.
Because the game doesn't end in a draw if your flag goes down.
You can play as perfect as you like - but no draw once that time has run out first.
And that's the general figurative 'you'.  
Its also never been proven as to whether each of white's 20 first moves would be draw - win or loss if both players play 'perfectly'.
And it might never be.

morphy1001

Sorry folks no such things as perfect play in a whole game in Chess. Just think about it for fifteen minutes.

playerafar
morphy1001 wrote:

Sorry folks no such things as perfect play in a whole game in Chess. Just think about it for fifteen minutes.

Who said there was?  No apology necessary.

vihaan432

Boom!!!!

playerafar

By the way - consider Black's play in this game ...
and it doesn't even take fifteen seconds to consider it ...
g4 e5 f3 Qh4# checkmate.
Something 'imperfect' about black's play there? happy.png