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stuzzicadenti wrote:

this sounds promising you have high rating and i want to improve my chess

Lol

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Iluvmarlies wrote:

chamaria17e hat geschrieben:

OP's rating increased by ~270 points in hours?

what do you mean? :p

I guess you know it... :p

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chess_big_master wrote:

I am titled player (National master, there was a bug a few days ago on chess. com and it changed to CM). My current fide rating is 2228 and I offer coaching services just for $10 per hour. By the way, all my students are completely satisfied with our lessons so..

 

You are a child. Good luck in your teaching.

I am 18 and what?

 
According to your FIDE profile, you are not 18. Secondly, if you really are offering $10 an hour for coaching, then I congratulate you. But what I'd like to reiterate once again in this thread is that the value of a coach isn't defined by what his FIDE rating is. The rating is only a part of it. What student's really need is a mentor that can guide them through effective teaching methods that enable a smooth learning process. Considering my background in education, and my level of chess put together, I have set a fair price that is not only below the avg. hourly coaching price, but is value for one's coaching needs.

I don't need to be a grandmaster, I don't need to be a FIDE Master. What I need to be is someone who understands Chess up to a level that's beyond a beginner and intermediate player, and has a good foundation in understanding opening themes, ideas, and strategies that can be communicated and taught effectively to another individual who wishes to learn the same. I have that capability. 

I will be 18 in 2 mounts does it really matter? 
Yeah, your price is lower than average but your chess level is also much lower then average level of chess coaches here so.. but anyway it's completely for you to decide the price for your lessons. Just my opinion.

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My question is: Why is this the 10th such forum on the subject?

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chess_big_master wrote:

I will be 18 in 2 mounts does it really matter? 
Yeah, your price is lower than average but your chess level is also much lower then average level of chess coaches here so.. but anyway it's completely for you to decide the price for your lessons. Just my opinion.


You just agreed that my price is much lower than an average coaching price, and yet the issue all along in this thread were that people were saying I'm charging way more. Like I said, I have fairly priced my coaching with respect to my teaching ability, and my knowledge about chess. I do not have a title, but I have decent knowledge to coach beginner/intermediate players and for that I have a set a price that works. I don't expect to be coaching GM's or IM's.

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chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab пишет:
chess_big_master wrote:

I am titled player (National master, there was a bug a few days ago on chess. com and it changed to CM). My current fide rating is 2228 and I offer coaching services just for $10 per hour. By the way, all my students are completely satisfied with our lessons so..

 

You are a child. Good luck in your teaching.

I am 18 and what?

 

Oh. Even younger than I thought. You mentioned school in a way that made me think of college for some reason. You are a young child. 

 

At 30, you become an adult.

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AdamovYuri wrote:

my rate is 20 euro/hour I guess it depends on where the coach is based. For me anything under 20 euro per hour is simply waste of time

 

My rate is a little less ($25 US an hour), but I've only been coaching sixteen years and am only a strong class player. I bring beginners up to my level, then push them on to a titled player for more coaching. Some of my former students now beat me with regularity thanks to my coaching.

Most of my coaching is in-person locally, but I have done some online coaching, including some lectures for Chess.com University.

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I cannot understand why anyone would say that "teaching for $10 is a waste of time".

First of all, in Eastern Europe $10 is worth 2-3 hours of an average job. Someone mentioned McDonald's - if I wanted to work in McDonald's in Poland, I would be paid $2.5 per hour.

Secondly, kids aged 8,10,12 may be more comfortable working with a 18-year old who is more like them than an older person who would remind them of school teachers, which kids generally don't like too much. Depends on the student.

Finally, if you know that you would waste this time - watching tv, playing games etc., isn't it better to teach, even if you don't earn that much?

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chamaria17e wrote:

OP's rating increased by ~270 points in hours?

The only rating increase I had in the past 8 hours was in bullet Chess. Let me guess, that appears fishy to you right?

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1. There are several coaches on Chess.com, pricing right is part of the competitive process which if you understand business is very key how you position yourself in the current market.

2. Chess.com is world wide, has anyone heard of money conversion rate? I'm sure he knows what is worth his time.

3. As for the rating, if someone was using a engine this would most likely reflect in the bullet rating. The fact that his bullet and blitz have similar numbers don't indicate cheating.

4. I've scrolled through his games, he has beat titled players.

5. I use his coaching and have improved, I've had zero issues or concerns. I'm an athlete and have had many coaches in my life, he has several qualities that I would say that make a great coach.

Bottom line, if you want his coaching get it and if you don't, then don't. No need to have endless dialogue over price, speculation, and any other nonsense.
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Kacparov wrote:

I cannot understand why anyone would say that "teaching for $10 is a waste of time".

First of all, in Eastern Europe $10 is worth 2-3 hours of an average job. Someone mentioned McDonald's - if I wanted to work in McDonald's in Poland, I would be paid $2.5 per hour.

Secondly, kids aged 8,10,12 may be more comfortable working with a 18-year old who is more like them than an older person who would remind them of school teachers, which kids generally don't like too much. Depends on the student.

Finally, if you know that you would waste this time - watching tv, playing games etc., isn't it better to teach, even if you don't earn that much?

 

One of my former students who is now working with a master is a young teenager and offers game analysis (alongside a master) at our local youth tournaments. He does an exceptional job.

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PraveenSagar пишет:

chess_big_master wrote:

I will be 18 in 2 mounts does it really matter? 
Yeah, your price is lower than average but your chess level is also much lower then average level of chess coaches here so.. but anyway it's completely for you to decide the price for your lessons. Just my opinion.


You just agreed that my price is much lower than an average coaching price, and yet the issue all along in this thread were that people were saying I'm charging way more. Like I said, I have fairly priced my coaching with respect to my teaching ability, and my knowledge about chess. I do not have a title, but I have decent knowledge to coach beginner/intermediate players and for that I have a set a price that works. I don't expect to be coaching GM's or IM's.

I agreed because if we take all grandmasters, international masters or even national masters like me then your price will be lower then the average. But if we take only coaches at your level then I guess your price will be higher then the average. I don't know you and your coaching ability maybe you are an exception but usually a person without even any title and such a low Elo rating can't be a great coach just because of luck of chess understanding.

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Ziryab написал:
chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab пишет:
chess_big_master wrote:

I am titled player (National master, there was a bug a few days ago on chess. com and it changed to CM). My current fide rating is 2228 and I offer coaching services just for $10 per hour. By the way, all my students are completely satisfied with our lessons so..

 

You are a child. Good luck in your teaching.

I am 18 and what?

 

Oh. Even younger than I thought. You mentioned school in a way that made me think of college for some reason. You are a young child. 

 

At 30, you become an adult.

You are ridiculous. Engoy your 50+ party.

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PraveenSagar I think you have nothing to defend. It's a waste of time. If your pupils are happy with your lessons, be happy. That's only thing you have to take care of. What your none-pupils thinks doesn't matter.

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"At 30, you become an adult."

"You are ridiculous. Engoy your 50+ party."

 

I'm 61, and not sure if I'm an adult/grown-up yet.

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@praveen : how did you select your material for your lessons, considering you have almost no OTB experience ? How would you know what is important or not for a chess player ?

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chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab написал:
chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab пишет:
chess_big_master wrote:

I am titled player (National master, there was a bug a few days ago on chess. com and it changed to CM). My current fide rating is 2228 and I offer coaching services just for $10 per hour. By the way, all my students are completely satisfied with our lessons so..

 

You are a child. Good luck in your teaching.

I am 18 and what?

 

Oh. Even younger than I thought. You mentioned school in a way that made me think of college for some reason. You are a young child. 

 

At 30, you become an adult.

You are ridiculous. Engoy your 50+ party.

 

When I was 25, it bothered me to hear college basketball coaches refer to those they coached as "kids". The passage of time has altered my perspective.

 

I was gonna say 35, but the early 30-somethings are in a sort of ambiguous space vis-a-vis adulthood.

 

Nonetheless, I have no problem with children teaching children, nor even occasionally with children teaching adults when the children have the requisite skills. I do think, however, that should you ever find yourself in a position to support yourself through your teaching, you may find cause to regret your current rates. This lack of perspective is a consequence of your youth.

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Ziryab написал:
chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab написал:
chess_big_master wrote:
Ziryab пишет:
chess_big_master wrote:

I am titled player (National master, there was a bug a few days ago on chess. com and it changed to CM). My current fide rating is 2228 and I offer coaching services just for $10 per hour. By the way, all my students are completely satisfied with our lessons so..

 

You are a child. Good luck in your teaching.

I am 18 and what?

 

Oh. Even younger than I thought. You mentioned school in a way that made me think of college for some reason. You are a young child. 

 

At 30, you become an adult.

You are ridiculous. Engoy your 50+ party.

 

When I was 25, it bothered me to hear college basketball coaches refer to those they coached as "kids". The passage of time has altered my perspective.

 

I was gonna say 35, but the early 30-somethings are in a sort of ambiguous space vis-a-vis adulthood.

 

Nonetheless, I have no problem with children teaching children, nor even occasionally with children teaching adults when the children have the requisite skills. I do think, however, that should you ever find yourself in a position to support yourself through your teaching, you may find cause to regret your current rates. This lack of perspective is a consequence of your youth.

Well, maybe you are more or less right with this thing. I set this price just for first time to feel how the coaching is working on chess.com so.. but for these days I am completely happy with my lessons.

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chamaria17e wrote:

$20/ hr?????? I met an International Master here at chess.com. His fee was just $10/ Hour. of course one will choose to deal with an IM even if his fee is twice than that of you.

Skill level is not the only thing that makes you a good coach. It really only matters that they are a lot better than you are and skill level is deffinetely not what makes a good coach stand out from a bad one. There are much more important factors than a player's skill level. It's like saying any Native English speaker can teach foreign kids English, but they ACTUALLY CAN'T and might suck at it, so please do not be ignorant to only skill level makes a good coach, because you are completely wrong. 

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hello any advice for a coach with a rate near to 10$ less or more,,a highly ranked player can be good also he/she does not have to be a master,thanks