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jcarson wrote:

At the risk of going off topic, may I ask:  What is the common practice on resigning?  This month I have two much better players on this site resign long before I would have expected and in one game before it was really decisively won.  Generally, I resign two moves after I decide that there is no hope and no prospect for any hope in a game, but I get the feeling that people expect me to have resigned sooner.  Is there some unwritten rule I don't know about? 


You can resign whenever you want to resign but it is considered common courtesy to resign as soon as you have a lost position which you know that you yourself could convert to a win (had you been playing the opposite side).

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Schachgeek wrote:

"Clearly lost" is in the eye of the beholder.

By the way, being down a queen or even a couple of pieces is irrelevant if my next move checkmates you or forces a stalemate or draw by repetition.

Opponents may be clearly lost positionally or materially but if you don't have enough time on your clock or otherwise can't close the deal in the time you have left then it is YOU who is clearly lost. 

That's what people don't get about live chess/blitz games.

They simply expect opponents to just roll over and do the submissive puppy maneuver. There is no such rule requiring your opponents to do so, consequently - if you are truly winning, PROVE IT.

And yes, I know we're talking about blitz games in live chess. In a correspondence game where time controls are measured in days per move, you have nothing cooking, no chance to save the game or salvage a draw and have confidence your opponent will find the right continuation then that's a little different - to resign when you're busted in this instance is considered a sign of respect and courtesy. HOWEVER, once again there is no rule in chess that says a player who is busted must resign.

SO I'm confused as to why we see multiple threads about this issue in the forums nearly every day. Yawn.


Well said! I like the PROVE IT. Don't yell it PROVE IT!Cool

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Schachgeek wrote:

"Clearly lost" is in the eye of the beholder.

By the way, being down a queen or even a couple of pieces is irrelevant if my next move checkmates you or forces a stalemate or draw by repetition.

Opponents may be clearly lost positionally or materially but if you don't have enough time on your clock or otherwise can't close the deal in the time you have left then it is YOU who is clearly lost. 

That's what people don't get about live chess/blitz games.

They simply expect opponents to just roll over and do the submissive puppy maneuver. There is no such rule requiring your opponents to do so, consequently - if you are truly winning, PROVE IT.

And yes, I know we're talking about blitz games in live chess. In a correspondence game where time controls are measured in days per move, you have nothing cooking, no chance to save the game or salvage a draw and have confidence your opponent will find the right continuation then that's a little different - to resign when you're busted in this instance is considered a sign of respect and courtesy. HOWEVER, once again there is no rule in chess that says a player who is busted must resign.

SO I'm confused as to why we see multiple threads about this issue in the forums nearly every day. Yawn.


 am i to repeat everthing i say? we are not talking about blitz games and we are not talking about cases where there is a question of the possition. im talking about where there is 10 minutes on the clock, or does it take you longer to figure out who is winning? dont answer taht. stop talking bull and avoiding what conditions i have clearly placed on what type of situation i am talking about 

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fight! fight! fight! fight!

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Schachgeek wrote:

"Clearly lost" is in the eye of the beholder.

By the way, being down a queen or even a couple of pieces is irrelevant if my next move checkmates you or forces a stalemate or draw by repetition.

Opponents may be clearly lost positionally or materially but if you don't have enough time on your clock or otherwise can't close the deal in the time you have left then it is YOU who is clearly lost. 

That's what people don't get about live chess/blitz games.

They simply expect opponents to just roll over and do the submissive puppy maneuver. There is no such rule requiring your opponents to do so, consequently - if you are truly winning, PROVE IT.

And yes, I know we're talking about blitz games in live chess. In a correspondence game where time controls are measured in days per move, you have nothing cooking, no chance to save the game or salvage a draw and have confidence your opponent will find the right continuation then that's a little different - to resign when you're busted in this instance is considered a sign of respect and courtesy. HOWEVER, once again there is no rule in chess that says a player who is busted must resign.

SO I'm confused as to why we see multiple threads about this issue in the forums nearly every day. Yawn.


I have always thought that if you dont have enough skill to understand why a position is lost then maybe you should play it out. It is true that "a lost position is in the eye of the beholder" but that is why I suggest you can resign when you have a position that "you yourself could easily convert to a win were you playing the opposite side".

[edited by moderator - don't make personal attacks]

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Yes, though its unsportsmanlike in may occasions, your opponent may hoipe you make a b;lunder so you lose/draw the game.

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You had to quote the entire sequence for that response?  Cool

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Cystem_Phailure wrote:

You had to quote the entire sequence for that response?  


I think it's only fair that the young fellah places his reply in the correct context.

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You know, I don't care what they do with their time. You accept that when you start the game that you are willing to spend (this) much time on that game. If the other player chooses to use it without making any moves, it's their decision. When that happens, you know you're going to win anyway, so why complain?

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Knightly wrote:

You know, I don't care what they do with their time. You accept that when you start the game that you are willing to spend (this) much time on that game. If the other player chooses to use it without making any moves, it's their decision. When that happens, you know you're going to win anyway, so why complain?


A mature approach like this has no place in the chess.com forums.

Moderators!!!  Drat, where's the chesstapo when you really need it?

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I can't help you on that one.  I've still got zero timeouts.  I might be irritating some opponents right now, because I decided to take a few days of vacation from my games and yet they still see me playing in the forums, but that's a different matter . . . Cool

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nope nope im not buying it

i mean it looks to me like he was thinking on a bigger scale you know, takiing his time to figure out the right moves you know. either that or he had to take a particularly massive dump and couldnt make it back in time to finish the game.

but hey, even if he did leave for some valuablle reason, its not like the actual chance of that happening combined with your grievences outweigh your opponants sufferings in losing a clearly lost game. i mean just imagine how heartbroken he would have been if someone had saved you the time of all this and he had to lose the game with time still there on the clock.

the very thought! nope nope, im not buying it. we dont want any of that. go away

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LisaV wrote:

I'm still curious to hear from people who *in the past* let time run down in positions you knew were hopeless, like an obvious mate in 1.

Not that you do it now, not that we're going to rain crap on you.

I'd enjoy hearing directly from you what motivated you and why.

Any takers?


Sometimes I'm high and just lose track of timeSmile

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I hate when this happens too, but I feel like it doesn't happen too often and you're on the internet anyways! So you can kill time with plenty of things.

But I believe I have left a few people waiting, to be honest mostly in winning positions. If I know I have to go and I'm losing by a lot I would try to resign though. But there are times when I don't know how long I will be gone for, and it turns out I miss the game. 

I get a little more irritated though when my opponent would occasionally, after in a losing position, say I have to go now let's draw. Or another told me that his computer didn't work or something without his mouse and the last move he made was because of that. Also that he tried clicking resign but it won't let him because of the same reason, yet he was able to click on draw and do the first 20 moves out. If you lose, you lose I don't get why people just don't accept that. Ratings come and go.

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LisaV wrote:

Curious to hear from people who used to let their time wind down in lost positions, or even from those who currently do.

Why did/do you do it?  What was/is your mindset?

Just looking for explanations, not reasons to judge or flame.


I have done it once, but only because my opponent was calling me a "noob" and rude names and such over the chat. It was a hour game :P I laughed at him and played guitar while I read his whiny comments :P

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by the way this was a posstion that ForzaJuve asked about and his opponant had (white) left the time running under (deleted the comments for some reason)

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So far only one of my opponent let the time go in a lost position. I'm lucky I guess.

I never did that. In a lost position simply resign. There is no point in wasting others time and frustating them. Rules are to make life simpler. But some people enjoy making harder by taking stand with rules. Thats true not only on chess, but also on real life. The simple people use is "I do because I have the right to do".